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Siren 17 is a 17 ′ 1 ″ / 5.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Hubert Vandestadt and built by Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. between 1974 and 1987.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

One of the most successful production sailboats built in Canada (in this size range).

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SIREN 17 Detailed Review

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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of SIREN 17. Built by Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. (CAN) and designed by Hubert Vandestadt, the boat was first built in 1974. It has a hull type of Swing Keel and LOA is 5.23. Its sail area/displacement ratio 26.99. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.

SIREN 17 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about SIREN 17 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

Boat Information

Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, contributions, who designed the siren 17.

SIREN 17 was designed by Hubert Vandestadt.

Who builds SIREN 17?

SIREN 17 is built by Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. (CAN).

When was SIREN 17 first built?

SIREN 17 was first built in 1974.

How long is SIREN 17?

SIREN 17 is 4.57 m in length.

What is mast height on SIREN 17?

SIREN 17 has a mast height of 6.71 m.

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The Siren 17 is a 17.17ft fractional sloop designed by Hubert Vandestadt and built in fiberglass by Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. (CAN) between 1974 and 1987.

3200 units have been built..

The Siren 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

Siren 17 sailboat under sail

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Main features

Model Siren 17
Length 17.17 ft
Beam 6.67 ft
Draft 0.67 ft
Country Canada (North America)
Estimated price $ 0 ??

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Sail area / displ. 26.99
Ballast / displ. 17.33 %
Displ. / length 99.21
Comfort ratio 5.91
Capsize 2.94
Hull type Monohull swing keel
Construction Fiberglass
Waterline length 15 ft
Maximum draft 4.25 ft
Displacement 750 lbs
Ballast 130 lbs
Hull speed 5.19 knots

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Rigging Fractional Sloop
Sail area (100%) 139 sq.ft
Air draft 0 ft ??
Sail area fore 51 sq.ft
Sail area main 88 sq.ft
I 17 ft
J 6 ft
P 22 ft
E 8 ft
Nb engines 1
Total power 0 HP
Fuel capacity 0 gals

Accommodations

Water capacity 0 gals
Headroom 0 ft
Nb of cabins 0
Nb of berths 0
Nb heads 0

Builder data

Builder Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. (CAN)
Designer Hubert Vandestadt
First built 1974
Last built 1987
Number built 3200

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Review of Siren 17

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a fractional rig. A fractional rig has smaller headsails which make tacking easier, which is an advantage for cruisers and racers, of course. The downside is that having the wind from behind often requires a genaker or a spinnaker for optimal speed.

The keel is made of iron. Many people prefer lead keel in favour of iron. The main argument is that lead is much heavier than iron and a lead keel can therefore be made smaller which again result in less wet surface, i.e. less drag. In fact iron is quite heavy, just 30% less heavy than lead, so the advantage of a lead keel is often overstated.

The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.20 - 0.30 meter (0.66 - 0.96 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Siren 17 is 2.93, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.2 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Siren 17 is about 62 kg/cm, alternatively 348 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 62 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 348 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is a Ballast Ratio?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

Maintenance

When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 11m 2 (118 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.

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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.

UsageLengthDiameter
Mainsail halyard 18.1 m(59.3 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)
Jib/genoa halyard18.1 m(59.3 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)
Spinnaker halyard18.1 m(59.3 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)
Jib sheet 5.2 m(17.2 feet)8 mm(5/16 inch)
Genoa sheet5.2 m(17.2 feet)8 mm(5/16 inch)
Mainsheet 13.1 m(42.9 feet)8 mm(5/16 inch)
Spinnaker sheet11.5 m(37.7 feet)8 mm(5/16 inch)
Cunningham2.4 m(8.0 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)
Kickingstrap4.9 m(16.0 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)
Clew-outhaul4.9 m(16.0 feet)6 mm(1/4 inch)

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Siren 17 info...?

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  • Start date Apr 6, 2014
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finding41

I just acquired a Siren 17. I need sails... I'd also like to put any info about this boat in one easy to find spot. Right now there is a Private yahoo group... So if anyone has sail sizes and boom tent sizes and or drawings I'd love to copy them and put everything together. If you have a link that may be heplful please pass it along. Here is the sailboatdata.com link: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=3870 Thanks all!  

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The IJPE specs shown in Sailboatdata should get you far in selecting/ordering sails. I ~= jib luff J = distance from tack fitting to mast P = main luff E = main foot (boom length)(try an 8'x6' tarp for a trial boom tent)  

daryl.ramage

Siren info A good guy to contact is Pat Reagan (Shoretyus) on the Trailer Sailor forum. He used to have a Siren and has moved bigger to a Sirius. Pat is very knowledgeable about modifications. DAryl  

Tom G P-21

Something doesn't seem right with the sailboat data spec for the sails, 22 ft luff on a 17ft boat would be a pretty tall rig. Eyeballing the picture, if it is to scale looks like it should be smaller. Also, looking for new sails came across FX sails that has different dimensions for the sails for your boat. See link below and scroll down to Siren. I would confirm the dimensions over on the yahoo group or measure your own boat before ordering sails. Never owned a Siren but when I first stated looking for a boat I came across a couple. http://www.fxsails.com/quoter/selectboat.php  

Tom G said: Something doesn't seem right with the sailboat data spec for the sails, 22 ft luff on a 17ft boat would be a pretty tall rig. Eyeballing the picture, if it is to scale looks like it should be smaller. Also, looking for new sails came across FX sails that has different dimensions for the sails for your boat. See link below and scroll down to Siren. I would confirm the dimensions over on the yahoo group or measure your own boat before ordering sails. Never owned a Siren but when I first stated looking for a boat I came across a couple. http://www.fxsails.com/quoter/selectboat.php Click to expand

Thanks all! I was granted access to the Siren 17 Yahoo group today. There is allot of info on the site. I'm not sure why it's private...? Anyway here are a few things I found about the sail size... Every thing I could want! SIREN 17 Sail Dimensions [FONT=&quot]From Sailrite Sailplan Database [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]http://www.sailritesails.com/[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]THE STANDARD BOAT DIMENSIONS[/FONT] ​ [FONT=&quot]Data courtesy of: [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]sailrite[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]I[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]J[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]P[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]E[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]I2/P2[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]J2/E2[/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]17.167ft (5232mm) [/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]6.42ft (1956mm) [/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]17.50ft (5334mm) [/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]8.50ft (2591mm) [/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]CONSTRUCTION AND BACKGROUND DETAILS [/FONT] ​ [FONT=&quot]Length:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]17.17ft (5233mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Source of Data:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Owner Measurements[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Builder/Designer:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Vandestadt and McGruer [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]URL:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]http://sailquest.com/market/models/siren.htm[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Production Status:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Out Of Production[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Description:[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]L.O.A.: 17' 2" (5.24m) L.W.L.: 15' 0" (4.57 m) Beam: 6' 8" (2.03 m) Draft: 8" to 4' 3" Displacement: 750 lbs. (340 kg.) Ballast: 130 lbs. (59 kg.) [/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SAIL DIMENSION TABLES (the more popular sails only) [/FONT]​ [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 MAINSAIL[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]17.5*ft (5333mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]8.5*ft (2590mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech-AftHdBd[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]19.1*ft (5821mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Tack Ang[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]88*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Diag (clew/head)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]19.19*ft (5849mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Head (inches)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]4*in (102mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area (no Roach)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]77.4*ft2 (7191mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 GENOA[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]11.25ft (3428mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]15.5ft (4724mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]172.17*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]10.33*ft (3148mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]3.85*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]82.67*ft2 (7680mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]160% furling genoa[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 JIBSAIL[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]16.5ft (5029mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]8.25ft (2514mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]14.25ft (4343mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]118.67*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]7.12*ft (2170mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]10.83*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]58.78*ft2 (5461mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 ASYMMETRICAL[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]17.13*ft (5221mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]9.9*ft (3017mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]15.76*ft (4803mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]165*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]127*ft2 (11799mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 DRIFTER[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]16.75ft (5105mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]8.75ft (2666mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]15.25ft (4648mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]132.00*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]7.92*ft (2414mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]5.71*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]66.34*ft2 (6163mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]estimated drifter based on original track locations[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 JIBSAIL[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]7.42ft (2261mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]13.58ft (4139mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]104.67*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]6.28*ft (1914mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]12.79*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]50.21*ft2 (4665mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Furling jib[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]SIREN 17 GENOA[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Price This Sail[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Luff[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]16ft (4876mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Foot[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]10.67ft (3252mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Leech[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]15.58ft (4748mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Perc LP[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]154.21*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Length Perp[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]9.9*ft (3017mm)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Deck Angle[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]1.35*[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Area[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]79.22*ft2 (7360mm2)[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Comments[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]150% furling genoa[/FONT]  

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Hi folks, i am looking for a pair of jib cam cleats that attach to a 1inch T track on my siren 17. anyone have two for sale or can send me in the right direction? thanks  

Brian S

Do you mean something like this, a sliding fairlead with cam cleat? http://www.apsltd.com/dinghy-jib-lead-port-bullseye-swivel-h365-carbo-cam.html I guess it all depends on the dimensions of the t-track. Worst case scenario, you can get a whole C-track setup and just replace the works. For example, one of these: http://www.apsltd.com/jib-lead-kit-horizontal-cam-composite-line-guide.html  

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Model Threadfin 24

Category Bay Boats

2012 HANN POWERBOATS Threadfin 24 ****REDUCED****This 24 ThreadFin Bay by Hann Poweboats was built in Sarasota Florida for Law Enforcement and emergency use. It was fleet used and maintained by the Lee County Sheriff's Office. Original purchase price was $165k. The boat is 24 feet long and includes everything pictured, with trailer. When it was decommisioned, LCSO removed the GPS and police lights and siren.  This boat goes skinny with the flat back hull design and can head off shore with the deep vee and step. The Mercury Verado (1600 hours) was locally maintained by a certified dealer and no expense was spared, ever. Hydraulic jackplate, steering and all controls are in perfect working order. The hull was recently wet sanded, buffed and detailed due to the decal removal. Any questions, request more photos or set up appointment please call. PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO!!!!

1983 Baba  30 3GMF

1983 Baba 30 3GMF

Annapolis, Maryland

Make Baba 30

Category Cruiser Boats

1983 Baba 30 3GMF 'Siren' is a well equipped and seaworthy cutter. This classic, Bob Perry designed heavy displacement cruiser is spacious and comfortable. There is a lot of interior space for a 30 foot boat and the finish is superb. 'Siren' had a major make-over in 2004/5, and her current owner has done further major upgrades, including removal of the teak decks (2016). The wide side decks make it easy and safe to move around and the canoe stern makes for a dry cockpit and a boat that is extremely sea-kindly. If you are looking for a small, safe, strongly-built cruising boat that can take you anywhere in the world, respond to the call of the 'Siren'. Upgrades and Recent Maintenance: TEAK DECKS REMOVED 2016 - all screw holes bored, flared & filled with epoxy. Deck fared, 3 coats of epoxy primer & 3 coats of paint/nonskid.New in 2016:Alternator Batteries (Start and house)ProSport Multi Battery chargerYanmar injection pumpEngine hosesHeat exchangerExhaust hoseRacor fuel separatorGalley foot pumpThrough hull in headBoot stripe, bulwarks & cove stripe repaintedBolts on Autopilot replaced2016 MaintenanceBottom Painted (3 coats of ablative)Fuel tank removed, refurbished & epoxiedWater and sewage tanks removed and cleanedThrough-hulls servicedWinches servicedStanchions and deck hardware removed & rebeddedChainplates removed, inspected, rebeddedChainplate covers - new addition.All teak stripped and sealed with Danish Teak SealerJib sheet track rebedded with new boltsThe current owner had plans to go South, but those plans changed, so Siren is all set up and ready to set sail.

2006 Reinell 204 LSE

2006 Reinell 204 LSE

Renton, Washington

Make Reinell

Model 204 LSE

Category High Performance Boats

2006 Reinell 204 LSE Well cared for runabout setup as Wakeboard/ski boat - only a 2 owner boat.Includes Bimini top in gorgeous red and new 4-blade propeller.Awesome walk-through transom design with seating for 8 between bow, two captain chairs, and L-shaped rear seating. Nice big sun deck in the back near built-in swim platform.Fully serviced and ready for fun with oil change (out-drive and engine), spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, fuel filter, oil filter, and water pump. Low, well-maintained hours on the 5.0L GL V8 Volvo engine. Includes bumpers, tie ropes, all safety gear (siren, float, fire extinguisher, running lights, whistle), rear view mirror - and much much more. Even fitted cover with tie-downs for towing. Everything you need to start enjoying right away!Two wakeboards (one men's, one women's), several vests, tow ropes, 3-person pull tube, 1-person pull tube - all negotiable.Spent over $4000 on Wakeboard Tower and 8-speaker, 400W stereo. Tower includes 4 speakers, and enough storage for 3 wakeboards and 1 knee or surf board.Includes PA system so you can talk to the skier/boarder while running.

2003 ZERO TOLERANCE

2003 ZERO TOLERANCE

Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Category Center Consoles

2003 zero tolerence NEED TO SELL ! GREAT CONDITION ! ALL OFFERS WELCOMED ! THIS IS A 1 OWNER BOAT THAT HAS BEEN KEPT UP FROM DAY ONE, WITH ONLY 412 HRS ON TWIN 250 YAMAHA'S. THE BOAT IS IN MINT CONDITION AND READY TO GO, AND THE MOTORS HAVE NEVER GIVEN ME A PROBLEM, THIS IS A 65 MILES PER HOUR BOAT, COMES WITH RADIO, 8 SPEAKERS, AMP AND A 6 CD CHANGER, SALT WATER WASH DOWN, 18 GALLON FRESH WATER TANK AND SHOWER ON PLATFORM, 4 27 M BATTERIES, COMPASS, GARMIN GPS, FRONT DECK LIGHTS, REAR DECK LIGHTS, REAR BATTERY COMPARTMENT LIGHT, TRANSOM LIGHT, UPPER WHITE LED LIGHT FOR FISHING, CUSTOM MADE RADAR ARK WITH BIMINI TOP, CUSTOM MADE LEANING POST, CUSTOM MADE CENTER CONSOLE, RUNNING LIGHTS, CIGARETTE LIGHTER FOR SPOT LIGHT, HORN, 2 BILGE PUMPS, SIREN, B H F RADIO, 18 INCH TRIM TABS AND MORE. TWIN 25" PITCH MIRAGE PLUS STAINLESS STEEL PROPS. TORINO ALUMINUM TANDEM TRAILER WITH SPARE TIRE. I PAID 100,000 K FOR THIS BOAT AND TRAILER AND IT'S CLOSE TO THE SAME WAY I GOT IT.MOTORS JUST GOT THE 400 HRS SERVICE DONE, PLUS NEW IMPELLERS, AND LOWER GEAR OIL.....

JC 824EX Pontoon Boat

JC 824EX Pontoon Boat

Williamsburg, Virginia

1988 JC 824EX with a 1977 140 HP (the cowl says 115) Johnson outboard. This pontoon boat has an upper deck that is almost half the size of the deck and it is awesome! The upper deck is a fantastic place to lounge and it is so nice to have the shade over the stern! Steel trailer!The boat has been restored from the deck up: new deck boards sealed and painted with Duracoat non skid; Console totally rebuilt and painted to match the deck; custom instrument panel with new fuel gauge, electrical wiring, and dual battery meter; new "fishing" style folding seats with pedestals on the bow; bull horn/siren; new stereo and speakers; all new fuse and switch panel. The only thing she really needs is some paint, but that is actually a plus for you! The panels are already prepped for paint...chose a color scheme and go for it!Top speed is around 18.5 knots on glassy water! Easily accommodates 6+ adults for entertaining!Engine has brand new stator and power pack. Replaced the throttle/gear control with a dual stick for more control and easier starting at the dock!I'm now including a brand new (as in never, ever used!) Minn Kota trolling motor 46lbs of thrust.

2003 zero tolerence

2003 zero tolerence

2015 Yellowfin 42

2015 Yellowfin 42

Dingmans Ferry, Pennsylvania

Make Yellowfin

Category Fishing Boats

2015 Yellowfin 42 FOR QUESTIONS CONTACT: ALAN 813-731-4738 or [email protected] 2015 Yellowfin 42 ENGINES-3 x 350 yamaha (350 hours) Custom painted white -New Spare SS Yamaha prop-Warranty left and can be extended for 4 more years via YES EQUIPMENT-2 swim platforms and swim platform ladders-Built-in hookah system -Extended loungers with electric tilt up head rests-Forward bow life jacket compartment covers-Thru hull anchor with windlass (controls at bow and at helm) -8 dive tank holders-Generator-A/C in cabin and at helm-Queen birth tan cushion-Microwave-8 amg batteries upgraded (plus extra house battery) -2 raw water High Pressure washdowns and 2 fresh water washdowns -Extended T-top (goes back farther for more shade) -Triple LeBrok Helm seating with arm rests and flip down bolsters-20 cup holders -Extra rod holders and rod/cup holders throughout boat-Swivel rod holders for deep drop and bent butt rods-12v electric reel and downrigger outlets in cockpit-Pop up cleats in cockpit gunnels for securing extra scuba tanks, buckets, coolers etc. -Livewell in transom-2nd livewell under rear facing seat-2 tuna tube in transom-3 Chill plates -Transom livewell plumbed for salt or fresh water (to rinse dive gear) -Under gunnel rod holders -6 t-top rod holders-Kingfish rod holders-6 transom rod holders-10 rod holders on side of forward center lounge seat-2 yeti coolers mounted behind transom in front of engines-2 forward facing flip up seats on transom-Grab rails on transom by swim platforms, on leaning post, on tower ladders-Tackle center behind rear facing seat vertical cushion-Electric head-2 tilt out rowan boxes under mid ship gunnels for ropes, cleaning supplies, trash, etc-6 drawer large plano box tackle storage in side of leaning post-3 drawer tools storage in side of leaning post-Insulated drink cooler under rear facing seat (doubles as second livewell) -Overhead helm electronics box/glove box with usb chargers and 12v charger-Shore power outlet-18ft Taco retractable outriggers, silver with gold collars. Top gun handle mounts under t-top. Center rigger holder in tower ELECTRONICS-4 Garmin Units-3 over sized Garmin screens at helm, 1 in second station (19in in middle helm, 2 -17in on each side) -6ft Garmin open array with 12 kw power-Side scanning-Auto pilot-2 VHF radios-External speaker for vhf-Hailer with external hailer bullhorn -GOST Security System with GPS tracker, 2 beam sensors, cabin door sensor, high water sensor, strobe lights, siren, 2 FOBs, control and notifications by cell phone-Meteor Sound System-12 JL speakers-4 JL Sub woofers-3 Amps-2 Wa

2001 Hunter 290

2001 Hunter 290

Punta Gorda, Florida

Make Hunter

Category Sloop Sailboats

2001 Hunter 290 Original Owners are now ready for Siren Song's new owners to take her cruising!   If you are looking for a well equipped, clean and well maintained sailboat this should be first on your list. Her rig is powerful yet very easy to handle for solo sailing.  Siren Song's draft of 4" allows her to go almost anywhere. The wide beam carries aft to allow for a wide comfortable cockpit with integral stern rail seats which which provide the crew incredible 360 views. The open galley complements the extremely comfortable salon. Adding to her comfort are 8 opening hatches and ports proving great light and ventilation. The two private cabins provide accommodations for the entire family and crew.  Features Include:Inboard Yanmar Diesel2 Private CabinsRay Marine AutopilotCustomized salon tableLarge Cockpit w/ Walk-thru Transom Water and Fuel Tank MonitorsExtended Bimini and Dodger in excellent condition Asymmetrical Sail with dousing sock 200 foot anchor rode with 40 foot chainDepth sounder and fish finder

1976 Palmer Johnson Peterson 42

1976 Palmer Johnson Peterson 42

Drummond, Michigan

Make Palmer Johnson

Model Peterson 42

1976 Palmer Johnson Peterson 42 This boat was built in 1976 for Richard Hokin of Minnesota. Mr. Hokin had a number of customor semi-custom boats built during this time (most of which were called "Love Machine").This particular boat was specifically built for the SORC under the IOR 2-ton rule of the mid 70's.Peterson was a hot designer then because of his L-ton successes.This particular design was first built as a shorter boat, "Siren Song", then lengthened for "LoveMachine" and "sleeping Bear". Siren Song ended up being 4L feet, and Love Machine andSleeping Bear are almost 43 feet.Love Machine (Divertimento) won the SORC that year and was extremely successful in all of itsendeavors. A famous sailing calendar picture was made of Love Machine, and it was the mostpopular shot for the SORC for many years.The boat was sold approximately 2 years after being built to Fred Van Luew of Newport, Rl,where the hull was painted dark blue and the boat was renamed "Fiddler". Mr. Van Luew hadmany boats under this name and it continues to carry his famous sail number - US 711. Theboat was actively and successfully campaigned out of Newprot for about 12 years. The boatraced under lOR, as well as PHRF rules and was optimized and updated whenever necessary.Many Newport to Bermuda Race plaques are still mounted on the bulkhead.After a dismasting in 1991, the boat was sold to Sid Millmart of Maryland, who subsequenttybought the boat back to the Midwest. Mr. Millman was employed by the Harken YachtEquipment and he intended to refit and refurbish the boat. Unfortunately, Mr. Millman wasonly able to set up a new rig and sail the boat part of one season. An extensive list of new andupdated parts was acquired for the boat (Harken Equipment needless to say). The boat waslaid up in Michigan until 1994, when it was purchased by Chuck and Dick Gravengood ofChicago.ln the spring of 1994 the boat was re-commissioned as "Geronimo". The Gravengood familyhas long been involved in Chicago sailing and this purchase was for a family project whichincluded racing and cruising. The boat was extensively refitted and refurbished with all theequipment Mr. Millman had acquired to bring Geronimo up-to-date for competitive sailing andefficient cruising. Geronimo safely took the family and crew on 3 Chicago to Mackinac lslandraces and thousands of miles of family cruising, ln the fall 1999, Geronimo was purchased by Tom and Myreta Davis as a summer sailing hometo explore the Great Lakes. The boat was re-commissioned as "Divertimento" (fun in ltalian).After a summer of sailing in 2000, the boat came to rest at its new home in KewauneeWisconsin. Over the next 10 years, Divertimento was completely re-done inside and out; andsailed by the Davis family thousands of miles around the Great Lakes (Michig

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Greetings! I just bought a Siren 17. The former owner didn't understand much about how she ought to be rigged. I can't make much sense of how to rig the mainsheet. It appears the line from the boom would lead to a small block on the port side of the stern, then to a block on starboard with a cam cleat. Thus it appears the boom will always have a port bias. Doesn't seem right. Secondly, the two bolts at the forward end of the "swing keel" confuse me. Why are there two? Finally, I'm not familiar with roller furling jibs. The seller told me the roller furling jib luff takes the place of the forestay. Can this be true? Best, jim  

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I have been sailing my siren for the first summer and towards the end my father and I feel that we have figured out some nice features. First The swing keel upper bolt is a lock pin, on ours I had to drag a rope under the boat and pull to get it to lock in place. (That may not be you need to do with yours.) Second the cushions inside come out to sit on while sailing, these are great on long days. Also I feel that the boom end sheeting is the best because it makes the boat feel a little bigger but if your flying solo rock it out on the sole. The boom on ours was too low on the mast and we moved it up so that the sail almost touched the top of the mast and it made a ton more head room. There is not a ton of info out there for these so I hope this helps. It is everything that I have learned over the course of a summer. Most importantly lock the keel in place and if it is your first time learning to sail buy a heel gauge for about 10 bucks and learn that the boat heels really nice and if your new it feels like a lot more that it is. I run mine in high winds about 20 degrees although before I found out that I had the keel only half way down I nearly capsized it a few times. Have fun and enjoy your new boat  

Hi everyone! My apologies in resurrecting this old post, but I am also new to sailing and purchased a Siren 17 in unfortunate condition. Most pieces were broken / missing, including portals, main hardware that attaches the boom to the mast, and the rudder. A friend of ours had a Siren that was destroyed in hurricane Sandy, and we benefited through his donation of a rudder and some hardware. After purchasing a Nautos swivel block to attach the boom to the deck, and buying a new fixed gooseneck from Dwyer, we are almost ready to sail! My question is that we have the halyard currently attached to the boom, holding it horizontally against the mast. Obviously this needs to be attached to the head to raise the mainsheet, but does there also need to be another line to hold up the clew end up the boom, or will the mainsheet be enough to support it? I've been looking at pictures in books and online, and some appear to have a secondary line going to the end of the boom, but others don't have one at all. Thank you in advance for your help!  

I know this is an old thread, but I suspect there are still some folks out there (like me) who have recently become a Siren owner and are trying to figure things out. Luckily, mine came with some old paperwork that provided some answers. I have attached a diagram showing three different rigging arrangements for the main sheet. When I bought the boat, it had the "single block" arrangement, which didn't seem very efficient. I figured the other options were progressive improvements, so I used the specs for the "boom-end" arrangement to re-rig the main sheet, and it works pretty well. The "secondary line" you refer to is called a topping lift. It supports the end of the boom, but should be detached and secured when the mainsail has been raised. On the Siren, it consists of a 3/16" by 27 foot line.  

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Sorry to jump in here, but I'm on the verge of buying a 1987 siren. The owner tells me that it has some different setups from other years.. Particularly the rudder assembly. Wondering what I should be looking to pay for this including the trailer. I haven't heard him mention the boom tent which totally entices me for some small lake getaways in my area. Can anyone point me in the right direction for specs etc on this model. Many thanks. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk  

Hello, I first purchased a Siren in the mid 1990's and sailed Lake Erie and some inland lakes for years. A couple years ago I purchased my current Siren to teach my grand daughter how to sail. I purchased a Siren again because I was familiar with the previous one. When I purchased mine I bought it from someone in Canada and met him at the border and was able to get a better price because of the exchange rate. It saved me several hundred dollars. I think I paid about $2500 for mine but it wasn't in the best of shape and I ended up using another trailer I had instead of the one it came with. I enjoy adding a lot of improvements to it though I'd probably cringe if I kept track of all I've spent over the past few years. Came with the original main and jib sail which I still use. It cleaned up nicely and I've added a lot to it since then. It's a great boat to sail for me. I do have the manual etc. that came with mine. I believe mine was built in 1979 though. I'm guessing there isn't too much different about it. I don't think most come with the boom tent though that is something you could have made easy enough. Two can sleep in the cabin as is. Some of the things I've added include: All new cushions both for inside the cabin and out in the cockpit. New 6hp Mercury motor. New semi-spinnaker sail. Replaced all teak wood hand rails and door trim with Corian. I think it looks better and doesn't need to be re-finished ever. Corian table inside the cabin with Sony stereo system mounted underneath and two speakers on both sides of the cabin entrance. We decided to make it look like a pirate ship so we added canon ports to the sides, anchor and other graphics for the fun of it. When your boat looks like a pirate ship it makes it so you don't have to worry about every little scratch or dirt mark because it kind of goes with the what we're trying to make it look like. I added some 1/8" wooden plywood port covers and had a company laser engrave a pirate looking out of both sides. On the inside I have other cool graphics added which I think looks cool. I also added some hardware so they can easily be removed if needed and then put back on. Purchased to anchors and chain along with all new lines for the sails, anchor lines etc.. Purchased 4 black dock bumpers. Replaced wooden piece over the keel wench with a nice piece of mahogany along with the piece of wood that the motor attaches to. Black cup holders all around the cockpit. Added wiring complete with fuse block for battery use including battery switch for using two batteries. Purchased 3 black mesh sail bags for the 3 sails which works nice because it allows them to dry if any of the lines are wet. Interior plank looking wallpaper for cabin. I replaced the shear pin for the keel with some brass 10-24 threaded rod and purchased two large 10-24 threaded handles to make it easier to remove and replace the keel shear pin. Home-center items. Works great. Sorry for the long post. I won't even get into what I've done with the trailer which is from about 1960 but looks brand new. (Mostly is but the frame) Any questions feel free to contact me. It's been a pleasure to sail as well as work on it. Mitch  

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Goatman24 said: Hello, I first purchased a Siren in the mid 1990's and sailed Lake Erie and some inland lakes for years. A couple years ago I purchased my current Siren to teach my grand daughter how to sail. I purchased a Siren again because I was familiar with the previous one. When I purchased mine I bought it from someone in Canada and met him at the border and was able to get a better price because of the exchange rate. It saved me several hundred dollars. I think I paid about $2500 for mine but it wasn't in the best of shape and I ended up using another trailer I had instead of the one it came with. I enjoy adding a lot of improvements to it though I'd probably cringe if I kept track of all I've spent over the past few years. Came with the original main and jib sail which I still use. It cleaned up nicely and I've added a lot to it since then. It's a great boat to sail for me. I do have the manual etc. that came with mine. I believe mine was built in 1979 though. I'm guessing there isn't too much different about it. I don't think most come with the boom tent though that is something you could have made easy enough. Two can sleep in the cabin as is. Some of the things I've added include: All new cushions both for inside the cabin and out in the cockpit. New 6hp Mercury motor. New semi-spinnaker sail. Replaced all teak wood hand rails and door trim with Corian. I think it looks better and doesn't need to be re-finished ever. Corian table inside the cabin with Sony stereo system mounted underneath and two speakers on both sides of the cabin entrance. We decided to make it look like a pirate ship so we added canon ports to the sides, anchor and other graphics for the fun of it. When your boat looks like a pirate ship it makes it so you don't have to worry about every little scratch or dirt mark because it kind of goes with the what we're trying to make it look like. I added some 1/8" wooden plywood port covers and had a company laser engrave a pirate looking out of both sides. On the inside I have other cool graphics added which I think looks cool. I also added some hardware so they can easily be removed if needed and then put back on. Purchased to anchors and chain along with all new lines for the sails, anchor lines etc.. Purchased 4 black dock bumpers. Replaced wooden piece over the keel wench with a nice piece of mahogany along with the piece of wood that the motor attaches to. Black cup holders all around the cockpit. Added wiring complete with fuse block for battery use including battery switch for using two batteries. Purchased 3 black mesh sail bags for the 3 sails which works nice because it allows them to dry if any of the lines are wet. Interior plank looking wallpaper for cabin. I replaced the shear pin for the keel with some brass 10-24 threaded rod and purchased two large 10-24 threaded handles to make it easier to remove and replace the keel shear pin. Home-center items. Works great. Sorry for the long post. I won't even get into what I've done with the trailer which is from about 1960 but looks brand new. (Mostly is but the frame) Any questions feel free to contact me. It's been a pleasure to sail as well as work on it. Mitch Click to expand...

It looks like this is the Siren Q&A thread so here is my question. How does one secure the Tack to the gooseneck? I have attached a few photos to show what my Siren looks like around the tack. I suspect the solution involves that hook shaped thing on the gooseneck, but I don't see how. I also don't know what the loop of string holding the cotter pin is for. I am also curious about whether or not these boats use a cunningham, as I don't see a grommet for one or anywhere to secure one on the mast. Thank you  

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Mitch, I'm currently trying to get new cushions for my siren. Where did you get yours? Did you just make new ones or buy them somewhere?  

Your best best is to ask over at the Siren Owners Group. You will have to ask for permission to join the group, but it only take a day or so to get in. Very good info there although the site is a bit antiquated. I cannot post a link yet, but I can post a photo with the url in it.  

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Boleu:You can adjust tension on the mainsail luff by moving the gooseneck up or down on the track attached to the mast. This obviates the need for a cunningham.  

I have had a Siren 17 for years. The swing keel has a hinge bolt and a bolt that holds the keel all the way down. I use the winch regularly to adjust the position of the keel. Upwind, I let it all the way down. Downwin, I wind it up most of the way. I never bolt the keel down because we are in a shallow lake. I dont know what would happen if I hit bottom with the keel bolted down but it wouldn't be pretty. I use a boat hoist so usually drop the swing keel a few inches once I'm on the lift to provide a bit of extra security if a big wave comes along I take the mainsail off when I am not sailing so use the topping lift to keep the boom up. That way, I can tighten up the main sheet and the boom doesn't swing in the wind. The furler on the job works good but you have to put a few turns after the sail is furled and tie everything tightly or you will have to buy a new job sail like I did a few years back. I put a kick up on the rudder down line so that if I hit bottom with the rudder, it releases and doesn't tear the corner off the rudder. Since I usually single hand, I was concerned about getting back onto the boat if I fell off or if the kids wanted to dive and swim back. The only place I could find for a flip down ladder was in the starboard, just aft of the pulpit. I put a rope that hangs a foot off the water to allow me to pull the ladder down if I'm in the water. I also tie the painter to my life jacket back loop when I get caught out in rough weather. It should swing the boat, bow to the wind if I fell overboard and give me a chance to catch her. This is all probably common sense but it's just things I discovered. Hope it helps.  

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Rig specifications.

These are the specifications provided by the designers, but even from the factory, these boats may not be identical. The reason for this is that the sail industry often contracts manufacturing to different sources in order to achieve economies of scale. What this means is – your Siren 17 may be more unique than you initially thought.

It’s important to note that boats are also frequently customized, so if you suspect that work has been done on yours, it’s best to take your own measurements. When ordering a sail, we will advise you if using the manufacturer’s specifications is appropriate, or if we require you to complete our own measurement forms.

I: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m

J: 6.00 ft / 1.83 m

P: 17.75 ft / 5.41 m

E: 8.00 ft / 2.44 m

Siren 17 Mainsail Closeup

The Siren 17 is a small, monohull with a length overall of 17 feet and a beam of 6 feet. It has a displacement of 750 pounds and a sail area of approximately 139 square feet. The boat is designed to be sailed by one or two people and has a maximum capacity of four. The Siren 17’s low profile and sleek lines give it a modern, sporty look that is both functional and attractive. The boat’s interior is made up of fiberglass and molded with foam; the cabin has mahogany handrails and enough space for two average-size adults to sleep. The cockpit, on the other hand, is much larger than the cockpits of most 17-footers. It has a draft of 4.25 ft. and consists of a steel plate centerboard that is operated from the cockpit.

Performance

The Siren 17 is a responsive and lively sailboat that is well-suited for both racing and cruising. Its light weight and narrow beam make it quick and agile on the water, while its large sail area allows it to perform well in light to moderate winds. The boat’s high aspect ratio rig and deep keel provide excellent upwind performance and good stability in rough conditions. Overall, the Siren 17 is a fun and versatile sailboat that can provide hours of enjoyment for sailors of all skill levels. Because of its compact design, the Siren 17 sailboat can be transported without the help of a crowd; it can be easily towed to a medium-size car for launching and hauling out. Despite being a full-featured, small-size sailboat, it is economical.

The Siren 17 was designed by Hubert Vandestadt in 1967 as a small, affordable sailboat for recreational use. It was produced by his company – Vandestadt & Mc Gruer Ltd, in Canada, Ontario. After its launch in 1974, the company produced nearly 3,200 units of this model. The production continued for thirteen years, and it became the most successful sailboat produced in Canada. Its lightweight fiberglass hull and simple rigging made it popular among amateur sailors who wanted a boat that was easy to handle and fun to sail. The Siren 17 quickly became a popular choice for racing, and its reputation for speed and agility on the water led to the development of a one-design racing class in the early 1970s.

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The Siren 17 features a sloop rig with a mainsail and a jib. The mainsail has a sail area of approximately 89 square feet, while the jib has a sail area of approximately 50 square feet. The Siren 17’s sail plan provides excellent performance in a wide range of wind conditions. The large mainsail and jib allow the boat to generate plenty of power, while the high aspect ratio rig provides good efficiency and speed. The boat is particularly well-suited for sailing upwind, where its deep keel and powerful sail plan can help it make good progress against the wind.

The Siren 17 is a versatile and enjoyable pocket cruiser that has been a popular choice among sailors for over 50 years. Its simple yet modern design, excellent performance, and low maintenance requirements make it an ideal choice for both racing and cruising.

Recommended Sails For Your Siren 17

We would love to help you enhance your sailing experience on your Siren 17. That’s why we have put together a list of expertly curated sail recommendations just for you. You can find more information about each sail and what makes our designs stand out by following the links to our education page.

You need a mainsail designed to give you the greatest mileage out of your vessel. Precision Sails’ custom designed mainsails come with all the standard options needed to get sailing right away, and custom options to optimize handling, performance, and shape.

Jibs, genoas, yankee cut, staysails, or working jibs, we do it all. No matter what headsail you need for you sailboat, Precision Sails’ team of sail designers will work with you to ensure your new head sail fits and performs for you. Our headsails come complete with all standard options required for the best performance and durability. Learn more about our available headsail options and customization here.

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Sail downwind easily with your choice of our downwind and light wind sail options. We custom design and tailor every sail for your needs. Explore our symmetrical or asymmetrical spinnakers and code zeros, including what options are available for each.

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  4. SIREN 17: Reviews, Specifications, Built, Engine

    SIREN 17 Detailed Review. 1 of 2. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of SIREN 17. Built by Vandestadt and McGruer Ltd. (CAN) and designed by Hubert Vandestadt, the boat was first built in 1974. It has a hull type of Swing Keel and LOA is 5.23.

  5. Siren 17 Handbook+

    This is why more than 2,300* have already been sold and it remains Vandestadt & McGruer's best selling boat. Daysailer - The Siren 17 has a full seven foot long self-draining cockpit, mainsail and furling jib. She is easy to handle, comfortable and dry. Weekender - Weighing only 750 lbs. the Siren 17 is easy to trail, even with a 4 cylinder car.

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    Step-by-step instructions on how to raise the mast and rig the Siren 17 sailboat solo. Note that at 3:00, when demonstrating how to setup the mast, I change...

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  12. Review of Siren 17

    The Siren 17 is a small sailboat designed by the maritime architect Hubert Van de Stadt in the mid seventies. Several thousand boats have been produced. The Siren 17 is built by the Canadian yard Vandestadt & McGruer Ltd. . Here we would have liked to show you nice photos of the Siren 17. If you have a photo you would like to share: Upload Image.

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  21. Siren 17 Sails for Sale

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    1985 Vandestadt & McGruer Siren 17. The perfect trailer sailor. This pretty coastal cruiser has just completed its most recent voyage - Lake Champlain, Lake Placid, Cayuga Lake, and Lake Chautauqua. Jiffy reefed mainsail and a roller-furled headsail for shortening in a blow. Four foot draft with swing keel down: it is quite stable and easily ...

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