![hanse yacht opinioni Cruiser Wiki](https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/images/wiki_200.png) | Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. | 17-05-2008, 21:34 | | | . Let me know what you all think.. Thanks.. | | | 18-05-2008, 12:25 | | Boat: Hartley Tahitian 45ft. Leisure Lady | | | | 18-05-2008, 12:39 | | | in 20/30 knots of when a loud bang was heard, the failed and the craft began to take on . The was deployed to allow transfer to another yacht "Quite Correct" which was in the vicinity. The failed to inflate. The crew were successfully transferred using the belonging, to "Quite Correct". The yacht "Megawat" sank in approximately 40 minutes. The total file is huge however. For those of you who wanted to read it, I am sorry I spoiled the ending... Alot of detail but nothing conclusive or truly damning about the manufacturer. Interesting reading. Especialy about the not being compatible. The of the auto-helm also may have played a part in weakening the stock. They were surfing down a wave at an estimated 11 knots when failure occurred. | | | 19-05-2008, 09:58 | | | stock ---------------------------------------------- 5.3 RUDDERSTOCK FAILURE 5.3.1 The chemical composition of the rudderstock material corresponded to the specification stated. 5.3.2 The mechanical characteristics of yield point and tensile strength determined are about 10% above the upper limits of the strength class F32, which means the rudderstock had a reduced toughness leading to fast growth of any fissure present. 5.3.3 The rudderstock was roughly machined. A of 80mm is rougher than the achieved for sand casting and flame cutting. As stated in the test report in Appendix 7.7 80mm is "considered as very rough machine work". 5.3.4 The macroscopic findings indicate a fatigue fracture due to a V-notch (approx. 0.3mm) in the circumferential direction with unsymmetrical bending stress at the notch. It is unclear how the initial V notch defect was formed. There are two possible scenarios. 5.3.5 The defect was caused during manufacturing which resulted in a rough surface finish. 5.3.6 The retrofitted tiller arm was clamped to the rudderstock so the lower edge of the retrofitted tiller arm caught the top of the taper or a particle was present when the new tiller was clamped onto the rudderstock causing the initiating V-Notch defect. The presence of an initial defect leads to rapid growth of a fatigue fracture. Final failure will occur when the original diameter of the rudderstock is sufficiently reduced to lead to failure. Aluminium does not have a fatigue endurance limit unlike . 5.3.7 The surface finish detailed on the designers drawing, see Appendix 7.1, was specified as "smooth" and the drawing specified no dimensional tolerances. On a constructional drawing the surface finish and dimensional tolerances should be specified in accordance with best engineering practice. "Smooth" is not a recognised engineering specification. 5.3.8 The exposed part of the rudderstock between the underside of the and the top of the rudder blade was corroded. The antifouling (Awlgrip Gold) was incompatible with the aluminium rudderstock. The manufacturers of Awlgrip have advised that Awlgrip Gold should not be used on aluminium components as it is copper based and causes if applied to aluminium. Hanse Yachts advised that this type of has been found on other Hanse Yachts. Continued corrosion of the rudderstock could eventually lead to failure. 5.3.9 The owners manual does not warn the owner about the use of copper based antifouling. --------------------------------- What I took away from the report was, if you are going to have an aluminium rudder post it has to be machined and installed to very very standards, which wasn't the case here. Aluminium rudder post can develop microscopic cracks that lead to "rapid growth of a fatigue failure". How do you find these microscopic cracks, on an installed rudder post? I think one would be better off using a material that doesn't require absolute perfection to avoid catastrophic failure. It also appears that some things have fallen out of favour, rudder tubes that finish above the waterline and tight bulkheads, both of which would have prevented the from sinking. | | | 19-05-2008, 12:23 | | | to the in the last . I think he also won his class sailing across in 16 days. | | | 20-05-2008, 02:40 | | | . They certainly sail nicely. Also knowing one or 2 of the skippers, who shall we say might not be very experienced, they seemed to be easy to sail well at the same time. That can often indicate an good yacht. Nice lookers. One of the 37's smoked the fleet and some of the 2 divisions in front of theirs which included some big and fast . Mind you the skipper/owner is a top line pro. So if you know how they can be bloody quick as well. Build wise I doubt anyone would make a decision based on only one out of many 1000's. That failure isn't that hugely uncommon or at least rudder stock and environs amongst many types of . Sure things can and should be done to minimise risk but then many 1000's to one seems to be saying maybe it's not that bigger issue. I'd go for minimise myself. Hanse's? I'd have to say I do like them so far and I'm not a massive production boat fan sort of bloke. I'm taking one away in 2 weeks. I'll get back to you with what I think. | | | 20-05-2008, 03:34 | | Boat: Jeanneau, SO 42.1 "Far Niente" | of a new Hanse a couple years ago. Roller fuller nightmares, went forward ( in bad weather) to lower headsail and on the way back to the a stantion came off in his hand! showed that the nuts on about 50% of them had never been installed! Most of the leaked and HE had to have them rebedded. The frig was installed DIRECTLY under the frig and the heat made it impossible to keep stuffs cold. This is just SOME of the stuff. These boats are made in EAST ...so much for quality. He had little support from the dealer or the factory until he threatened them with a negative PR campaign. I don't think I'd want one. | | | 20-05-2008, 05:46 | | Boat: Footloose 40 steel cutter | 20-05-2008, 13:30 | | Boat: Saga 43 | . It was a poor job and he added a second clamp on the rudderpost for the intead of using the same one that the rod uses. Where it clamped the rudder post it was not installed true and eventually weakened the rudder post. Megawatt crossed the Atlantic twice, was raced hard by her Irish silamaker owner and sailed in the twice. She had many thousands of miles on it before the incident. Also, her owner went out and bought another one. Hanse rudders and rudder post are manufactured for them by a Danish company called Jefa. Here is their website ( ). Hey - Beneteaus have rudder stocks! As to build quality I doubt if many of the people have been on a Hanse. The build quality and strength of the boat are quite amazing. Walking down the sidedecks the boat has that "city sidewalk" solid feel. Much stronger than my previous 3 C&C's. They do not use a drop in glued liner like and - they have massive stringers glassed to the . Looking at the tops of the bulkheads you will see that each of them is also massivley glassed to the (not just glued with Plexus like many other boats). My and are beautiful crafted not plastic strapped in to a pocket in the hull liner like Beneteaus and Jeanneaus. Yes, the plant is located in what was East and their first products in the early 90's had some quirks. Micheal Schmidt is a West German and he moved his "one off" boat plant to Eastern Germany to take advantage of the labor subsidies available from the German . Since they added Carl Dehler to the plant and have gone through a generation of workers the quality is on a par with any other boat. Lots of new and relatively new boats have problems - many of which are due to poor dealer commissioning. Finally the sailing quality is and shoulders above many other boats and Hanses have been winning quite a few races. It seems hard for a new European brand to get traction in North America however I suggest you watch this company. Hanse's of Moody Yachts and Fjord boats are an indication of where Michael Schmidt is taking them. | | | 20-05-2008, 23:20 | | | and a few bits that don't get sent with the boats coming down here. The local Benny guy can spend 2 weeks trying to get one of those respectable before floating. One brand new 32fter with the entire port side decks delaminating after 2 weeks, that's bad, real bad. And the Hanses will blitz a Benny on the track. Sailed well they are fast. | | | 20-06-2008, 21:43 | | | tiller arm was clamped to the rudderstock so the lower edge of the retrofitted tiller arm caught the top of the taper or a particle was present when the new tiller was clamped onto the rudderstock causing the initiating V-Notch defect. The presence of an initial defect leads to rapid growth of a fatigue fracture. Final failure will occur when the original diameter of the rudderstock is sufficiently reduced to lead to failure. Aluminium does not have a fatigue endurance limit unlike . 5.3.7 The surface finish detailed on the designers drawing, see Appendix 7.1, was specified as "smooth" and the drawing specified no dimensional tolerances. On a constructional drawing the surface finish and dimensional tolerances should be specified in accordance with best engineering practice. "Smooth" is not a recognised engineering specification. 5.3.8 The exposed part of the rudderstock between the underside of the hull and the top of the rudder blade was corroded. The antifouling (Awlgrip Gold) was incompatible with the aluminium rudderstock. The manufacturers of Awlgrip have advised that Awlgrip Gold should not be used on aluminium components as it is copper based and causes corrosion if applied to aluminium. Hanse Yachts advised that this type of corrosion has been found on other Hanse Yachts. Continued corrosion of the rudderstock could eventually lead to failure. 5.3.9 The owners manual does not warn the owner about the use of copper based antifouling. --------------------------------- What I took away from the report was, if you are going to have an aluminium rudder post it has to be machined and installed to very very standards, which wasn't the case here. Aluminium rudder post can develop microscopic cracks that lead to "rapid growth of a fatigue failure". How do you find these microscopic cracks, on an installed rudder post? I think one would be better off using a material that doesn't require absolute perfection to avoid catastrophic failure. It also appears that some things have fallen out of favour, rudder tubes that finish above the waterline and water tight bulkheads, both of which would have prevented the boat from sinking. | 20-06-2008, 23:44 | | | but still easy to use. All controls worked perfectly fine. Good feel through the and no big loading issues. Sailing wise she was quick and easy to get quick. We did a couple of races and cleaned up all the Benny, supposed, model 40's. Elan 43 left in the wake. Finished one race, motored back into the marina. 2 crew got off, wife and 2 got on with a bag of and within an hour of finishing a race we buggered off for a week cruising. The only grizzle I'd have is that there is a serious lack of drinks holders in the cockpit, Oh.... and it's not mine. 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Hi all, I've asked about several other yachts, but I forgot to ask if anyone has had any real world experience with the Hanse line of Yachts. They do look great and I am hoping to see some at the boat show. Let me know what you all think.. Thanks..