Last winter my father and I started building two Oz Goose sailboats. We got one of them finished up in the spring and have spent the summer and fall learning how to get the most out of the boat. Our initial requirements were pretty simple. The Goose had to sail well enough to be entertaining and also be a good platform to start teaching the kids in the family how to sail. We were initially talking about building Puddle Ducks, but I ran across Michael Storer’s versions of the box boats and discovered his design for the 12 footer. The larger boat seemed like a better choice for our intentions, so we bought the plans and got started.
When I was initially asked to put down a few words about our boat, I intended to write a piece about how we built the Goose. I would have covered the ins and outs of the construction process and the choices we made along the way. Tonight, I decided to go a different direction. Most folks here are already familiar with box boats and building boats with plywood. Michael Storer’s plans and instructions are so thorough, there isn’t much to add. The build was pretty simple. Instead, I’d like to tell the story of what happened after the build and how we discovered what a great little boat we had.
The Launch The Goose was launched on the first possible day it could happen. The previous weekend was spent finishing up the sail and rigging the boat for the first time. The balance lug rig was an unfamiliar animal. We knew a bit about Bermuda rigs, but this was new territory. We rigged it according to the plans and started watching the weather forecast. Weather can be a tricky thing during the spring in Texas. It is temperamental and can go from mild to severe in a hurry. We found a place to launch and headed there on Saturday. There was plenty of wind, which we found out later was pushing twenty knots. It was sunny, warm and the water not too chilly. We decided to launch off of a lee shore as a safety precaution (yes, you read that right). The plan was to launch into the wind, so that we could get back easily if something important broke.
We launched as planned, into fairly determined chop and managed to climb our way upwind while staying off the bars and out of the fishing lines. The Goose accelerated quickly and handled the rough water well, if not noisily. The bow was pounding across the chop, but we were moving well and everything was (mostly) under control. We had our hands full with an unfamiliar craft and the rough conditions, but it was obvious that we had a decent boat. We just had to learn how to sail it well.
We spent about 45 minutes of tacking back and forth. The Goose was cooking on a big gust when the throat grommet tore out of the sail. Bang! Our rig blew up. We quickly doused the sail and took a look around. We were sitting about a half mile off of our launch point, but happily, directly upwind. I pointed the Goose at the beach while my dad held up a couple square yards of sail. We arrived back at the beach in a few minutes and picked up speed during most of the run. We got the Goose on the beach, examined the damage and unanimously declared victory. The torn sail was but a speed bump. We now knew the Goose was a fun and capable little boat.
Early Lessons The sail was repaired easily and we managed to get the boat on the water nearly every weekend for the next couple months. After the first outing, I immediately cleaned up the lines and rigging and made everything a bit more tidy. We continued to launch from the same ramp. The water was usually rough, but the wind backed off to a more reasonable 10-15 knots on most days. We got better at tacking the boat without stalling and learned a little more about setting up the balance lug. The kids and wives got their first rides and everyone was having fun in the new Goose. Our confidence was building quickly.
The first pleasant surprise came when sailing singlehanded for the first time. The Goose has loads of stability with two or three people on board. The handling gets a little more lively with just one. It was still easy to sail, but quickly led to the addition of a hiking strap and a tiller extension. This is when I first noticed that the Goose could really get moving. Even in light air, the Goose responds to every little gust and just accelerates away. The sensation of speed was present in all types of conditions.
Performance I eventually found a better place to launch. It was on a sheltered cove with the prevailing south wind blowing off the beach. I took the Goose out to the new spot by myself and was happy to find flat water and a strong breeze. The next couple hours of sailing changed my entire outlook about the Goose. It is no longer the stable little boat that sailed well and would happily do 5 or 6 knots in moderate wind. This is a rocket, with some real performance potential. I spent the day flying back and forth across that cove, hiking out hard with the Goose obviously planing. Loads of power, eye-watering acceleration and still easy to sail. At the end of the day, my hand-held GPS told me the Goose has topped out at 10.3 knots. This was fun!
By this time I had been pestering Michael Storer with questions about boat setup, sailing techniques and any other information I could get. He patiently answered all my amateur questions and was very generous helping me tune up the boat and my sailing. I have a background in flying and we went back and forth about the aerodynamics of sailing until I started to correlate my experience to the new regime. This was invaluable feedback over the summer as I tried to get more out of myself and the Goose. As an Australian Dinghy Racer (I think that’s a formal title), he steered me towards the performance end of sailing. It has taken some time for the lessons to sink in (still working on it), but gradually, I have been able to apply some of it to sailing the Goose. In return, the Goose responded by performing better and going fast more consistently. The learning process has been extremely engaging and more fun than I ever expected.
Teaching the kids A big part of our original mission for the Goose was to get the kids on the water and learning to sail. My youngest is six and she has two cousins that are just a little older. Dad and I finally got them all out to the lake at the same time and we got them started. They had all had a couple rides, but this was our first try at purposefully teaching them a few things. We started with capsize practice. Before rigging the boat, we pulled it out into waist deep water with just the mast stepped. We started with the boat floating on its side with one of us holding the mast on our shoulder. The Goose floats high on the side air boxes. Tipping it over is one of the fastest ways to empty out any water in the cockpit. We set the kids in the boat, sitting on the airbox panel. Then we could right the boat and end up with all the kids in the boat. They aren’t big enough to climb in by themselves yet. This saved boosting them in after righting the boat. We practiced this a few times and rigged the boat to go sailing. After some quick review, I took each of them out into deeper water and we did a real (planned) capsize and recovery, just like we practiced. This accomplished two things. First, we now had an easy way to get the small kids back into the boat and they knew the drill. Second, it removed all fear of capsizing for the kids. Kids having fun equals kids learning.
After the capsize drills were over, we set out in the Goose with all five of us on board. Each of them got a few turns at the helm and trimming the sail. We even tacked a couple times with the kids running things. The plan was coming together! The Goose sailed just fine with the large crew and behaved the same as always. It was still stable, easy to steer and trim and even continued to accelerate nicely in the puffs.
Goose Improvements Learning more about performance sailing helped me learn more about our Goose. I began to realize there were a couple things that needed to be better if I wanted to see the Goose improve. The foils are everything on a sailboat. Both the foils in the air and the foils in the water. We stuck to the plans on both, but our execution on the wet foils was much better than the execution on the sail. Leech control was a problem on our sail. No amount of tension between the boom and yard would tighten the leech. As a result, it fluttered constantly. The time came to build a new sail. I was more careful and accurate making the second sail and it was worth the effort.
In a departure from the plans, I adopted a common setup from Michael Storer’s Goat Island Skiff. First was changing from a laced foot on the sail to a loose foot. This required making a new boom that could handle the loads. In addition to changing the footing, I followed the lead of developments worked out on the GIS setups. The downhaul was moved back on the boom to work more as a vang (sometimes called a ‘vanghaul’ by Goat drivers). I upped the purchase to 6:1. Still pretty light compared to modern rigs. The boom parrel was converted to a limiting line to keep the boom from sliding forward on the mast. This has come to be known as a ‘bleeter’ by the GIS folks. The outhaul was changed from a static setup (tied with a line) to an adjustable rig with 2:1 purchase. This allowed easy depth control on the lower sail while on the water. Combined with the loose foot, the new controls allowed more and finer adjustment while sailing. It also allowed us put some of those high performance techniques into practice. Lots of practice.
This combination of improvements changed the character of the boat under sail. The leech was now quiet. The rig could be adjusted for conditions from almost no wind up to a stiff breeze. The boat could be configured quickly for beating, reaching and running with fewer compromises. This revealed more performance under a range of conditions and speeds. With the leech under control, the lift to drag ratio went up. Less heeling for similar power and speed. The cost of these improvements was minimal and it only took a few days work to make the new sail and boom.
Performance Revisited The next few outings after the rework proved to be interesting. It was now early fall and available wind starts dropping off in this part of Texas. We got out on a couple 3-5 knot days. Speed was clearly better than before with similar air. Trials were run of various settings until we had the right range roughed out for different points of sail. Interesting and useful endeavors, but we were waiting for a day with a breeze to see what the Goose could do with the new rig. I did manage 10 knots in a decent gust one afternoon, but that was short lived. The opportunity to fully test the boat came while attending Sail Oklahoma 2014.
Sail Oklahoma is an amazing gathering of water folk. Most boats are built by their owners and most are sailboats. I don’t have the space here to tell all the details of that week, but if you have the chance to attend, you should. It was a great time and there was lots of sailing.
Conditions on Lake Eufaula were moderate most of the week (except when the cold front came through). Thursday morning was the strongest wind of the week for me. It was blowing just north of 10 knots, but the gusts were close and strong. A few may have been pushing 17-18 knots. On a two hour sail, I spent a fair amount of time above 8 knots and several excursions over 10 knots. The boat was behaving beautifully. Finally, on a reach in the middle of the lake, I got a couple gusts that really let the Goose wind up. By bearing off in the gusts and hiking moderately hard, the Goose registered 12 knots on the GPS. The box boat made from Home Depot plywood and lumber was solidly in the double digits. Last Sunday, in a nice stiff breeze on the home lake, the Goose hit 12.9 knots and was in double digits almost half the day. Think about that for a minute.
Final Thoughts A yahoo from Texas with no real sailing experience, built a box boat for a few hundred dollars. The materials were all local and came from Home Depot. Pine plywood, pine and cedar lumber and as a bit of icing on the cake, using a sail made from Tyvek homewrap. The boat floats and sails. With the help of Michael Storer’s ‘Learn To Sail’ online correspondence course, it even sails well. Add the shallow pond of experience gained over a summer and some adjustments are made. The boat now sails extremely well.
It performs well in light wind and is stable and safe in strong winds. The Goose is a load of fun single-handed, but still fun with a pile of kids on board. Inadvertent capsizes are rare, but recovery is quick and easy. Plus, it comes up almost dry when righted. It has the controls needed to start learning some advanced sailing techniques, but can also be set and forgot for simple cruising. This is some serious bang for the buck. It requires approximately the same building skills as constructing a dog house that will keep your dog dry.
We could not have picked a better boat for our first build. It met and then exceeded everything we wanted to accomplish. It would have been difficult to pick a boat better suited for learning to sail. Certainly not for the time and money invested. Puddle Ducks are a great option. They can also sail very well and have some of the same benefits as a Goose. If you want a little more room and a lot more speed, the Goose is worth a look.
When we started the build we had a pretty low bar for success. It just had to sail and maybe not be a barge. I can’t express how much fun we have had discovering what this humble boat has to offer. I can only encourage you to get in on the fun. It is an excellent choice for a first sailboat.
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Instructional Videos for Building the Oz Goose Sailboat in the Philippines
During COVID we could not run our normal group builds of the Oz Goose Sailboat. So we created this instructional video series for the Oz Goose Sailboat so that families, community groups and corporate groups could run their own Oz Goose building programs.
The videos help normal people to build an Oz Goose at home from the plan or from a kit.
Most Oz Goose sailboats are built in our Family Boatbuilding Weekends (FBWs) . Three days of building an oz goose from a prepared kit. But if you can’t get to a FBW you can also build at home.
Instructional Videos on building an Oz Goose Sailboat from plywood or a kit
We have been doing the FBW projects for years and have learned a lot along the way about how to build the Oz Goose in the simplest possible way.
Not only are there the plywood boatbuilding instructional videos below, but there is a helpful resource on Facebook where you can ask questions and be answered by experienced builders and instructors. Both English and Tagalog are available.
This is an overview video from a family that built a goose – initially in a park by a beach – the links to the instructional videos are below.
Video List for the Oz Goose from Kit or Local Plywood and Timber
Note that these Videos are of the group build method where we use nails to attach the decks and bottom of the boat. We do this so that the next step can proceed immediately. Most people building at home will take more time doing work on the weekends or maybe one or two evenings.
The biggest difference to the video approach for most home boat building is that bronze nails will not be used. That temporary drywall/plasterboard screws (black screws) will be used for assembly and then removed. We totally trust the glue – 100 boats in the Philippines over 5 years can’t be wrong!
0 Using Epoxy for Boatbuilding and using the Electronic scales
Mixing epoxy precisely is very important as incorrect mixing and measuring will prevent the glue from hardening
Dry Assembly of Stage 1 of the Oz Goose Hull.
2 bulkheads, 2 tank faces, 2 bow and stern transoms, 2 side panels.
01 Dry Assembly of Bulkheads and Tank Faces
We use a dry assembly method. All plywood for the construction step is assembled temporarily with no glue. This way any troubleshooting can be done without glue getting all over the place.
Drywall/plasterboard screws are used to temporarily assemble the plywood parts.
02 Dry Assembly of Bow & Stern Transoms
Same for the front and back of the boat. Everything is aligned perfectly without the glue.
03 Dry Assembly of Side Panels
The outside skin of the boat is also added to the structure. It is pretty floppy, but once the boxes of the hull are formed later it becomes light and strong.
the Gluing process of stage 1 of the Oz Goose Sailboat Hull.
04a gluing bulkheads tanks transoms sides part 1 disassembly.
We take the parts apart and lay them out ready for glue to be applied
04B Gluing Bulkheads Tanks Transoms Sides Part 2 How to Mix Epoxy Glue
Now we show you the secret of the method. The glue is applied and the parts can be quickly assembled into exactly the same screw holes of the dry assembly step.
Because a lot of gluing is done at once this prevents wasting the expensive epoxy.
The final step is to straighten the boat so that no permanent bends or twists are built into the hull.
04C Gluing Bulkheads, Tanks, Transoms, Sides Part 3 Gluing and Final Assembly
More gluing.
Stage 2 – Fitting and Gluing the bottom of the Dinghy Hull.
05 dry assembly and gluing of hull bottom.
Same process for the bottom. Dry assembly, disassembly then glue application and screw the panels together in the same holes.
Stage 3 – Fitting out the Interior with centrecase and mast support
06 aligning the boat and dry assembly of interior components.
Hull is levelled again so that it is not twisted. Now the centrecase, mid seat, mast partner and mast step are dry fitted. It is very important they are straight.
07 Gluing All Interior Components and cutting out the centrecase slot
The components fitted in the last step are carefully glued in place.
Fibreglass the Bottom and Epoxy coat the outside of the Oz Goose Sailboat hull
08 fibreglassing the bottom.
One-fourth plywood in the Philippines is thinner than the ply in the rest of the world. So we use 4oz fibreglass to cover the bottom and go 25mm/1″ around onto the sides of the hull.
Only use woven cloth of 4oz (preferred) or 6oz for the bottom. See video to see the style of the glass.
If you are using plywood that is really 6mm or 1/4″ thick only the chines need to be fibreglassed with 2″ (50mm) fibreglass tape – see the plans for this simpler and cheaper method.
Decks – coat underside, coat inside tank, Fit the Decks trim and prepare for coating the exterior.
10 coat interior of tanks and underside decks, glue the decks.
NOTE that the underside of the decks is epoxied with two coats before being glued down.
Check the boat is level and untwisted before fitting the decks. Any remaining twist will be impossible to remove from the hull after this stage.
11 Final steps before Epoxy sealing decks and cockpit
Important details to make your Oz Goose Look Good and be comfortable to sail.
Rigging the Oz Goose to go Sailing
12 rigging first time for phbyc oz goose projects.
This is the preparation of the boat and rig before leaving home. It takes some time but most of it will not have to be done a second time.
13 First Sailing Day – Set-Up Boat and Rigging to go sailing
With practice the rigging of the Oz Goose on a sailing day takes a little bit more than 5 minutes.
A Small Memorial
Most of the videos on this page were filmed and edited by Rolly Perez. A dear friend to many of the volunteers that have made the Oz Goose movement possible here.
He and Marte introduced and helped support many people in their adventures in boatbuilding. Rolly died after an illness in 2022.
He is deeply missed by all of us.
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Surprising speed difference 12ft Oz Goose vs 8ft OzRacer
The 12ft Oz Goose was originally designed as an “extra hull” to take the rig and foils of the 8ft Oz Racer to take the family out, we were expecting around a 20% increase in performance but we found much more than that.
A resizing that worked beyond all expectations and taught us something about the limitations of conventional thinking about “what works in boat design”.
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First of all a Caution. This article is not permission to change the length of a boat plan.
Please consult the designer of your boat.
I have written articles before talking about the dangers of thinking that boats can be stretched or shrunk. They often cannot unless one understands what corner of design the boat inhabits. A very short Goat Island Skiff was a disaster for one amateur builder.
Is it OK to Stretch or Shrink an Existing Boat Design?
First Shock – 8ft Oz Racer handles 81/89 square feet mainsail easily all wind strengths
There are dangers in shrinking and stretching designs.
One way of avoiding dangers is to know which corner of design the starting boat inhabits.
In the article link above shrinking the Goat Island Skiff didn’t work because it is already a very small boat for its length and beam. Narrow waterline, light weight, minimal construction and big sail. So making it smaller was a disaster.
The 8ft Oz Racer was different.
We originally designed the 8ft Oz Racer to sail with an 8ft Duck class. Most boats had sails around the 40 to 45 square ft range with one or two boats with a bit more.
We decided that because the sails were so cheap (Polytarp) we may as well go big – as a sort of nationalist Joke.
After all it is an Australian Tradition.
What we were not expecting was that the 8ft boat fitted with well designed and made foils and sail/mast interaction would handle so very well even when the wind was strong. This was not without some struggle as we went through 4 mast designs and four sail designs to get the gust response we wanted.
The secret is the enormous stability of a rectangular platform boat. Any cutting away of the shape to make it more curvy or pointed reduces the stability very quickly.
The difference is radical – how many 8ft boats sail and handle well in all winds with a 90sf lugsail?
This is me coming in after a record breaking sail at 9.1kn. Not so fast, but this was a day at the Goolwa Wooden Boat Show where no other boats were on the water because the wind was going through severe gust cycles.
You can see I’m a bit damp from spray!
Why the Goose was designed – an extra hull for familysailing
I originally designed the goose as an extra hull for family sailing using the OzRacer rig, foils and rudderbox. Occasionally a plan would be sold.
Then around Ian Henehan started putting up videos – 10kn, then 12, then 12.9. This is the 12.9 video. It turned out these speeds were not uncommon for the goose. And that led us to start building a fleet in the Philippines – now 50 boats with another 20 by the end of this month.
Wrong – our underestimate of Oz Goose performance.
Being a 50% scale up we expected a performance jump mathematically related to the increase in waterline length. I know many of you know this.
Waterline in ft
1.34 x sqrt (waterline)
Oz Racer
7.5
3.66kn
Oz Goose
11.25
4.49kn
Roughly 22% greater speed. But it didn’t work out that way.
That was our expectation. So the Oz Goose was designed around 2008 but it wasn’t until we saw Ian Henehan’s Videos in 2014/2015 that made us realise there was something unexpected happening.
Qualitative performance jump for the Oz Goose
I’ve written articles about hullspeed and particularly “planing” are such mushy definitions in practice that they are kind of misleading. What happens in reality?
When we first sailed the 8ft Oz Racer we found that while it would plane, the speed always wanted to quickly deteriorate back down to roughly 4 knots.
There was a really feeling of speed fluctuation up and down. The speed would quickly build in a gust and then quickly drop down with the slightest drop in gust strength.
As a measure of how seriously I sailed the OzRacer – my record of 9.1knots agrees with the best peak speed in the Duck class by Kenny Giles of 9.0knots.
The goose feels totally different – you get the speed up easily and it does not deteriorate – it is happy at the higher speeds. A slight drop in wind pressure and the boat speed drops only slightly, a slight pressure increase and the boat accelerates slightly. More wind is more speed.
This is the PSA (National Team) giving a great demonstration of the easy speed in fairly moderate wind – it is easy to see the acceleration with the gusts even with two aboard.
This is Not disparaging the 8ft boat which has some practical advantages and probably a performance advantage in very light winds where the Goose is not a slouch either.
Speed is not the only criterion – handling in strong winds
Both the Goose and the OzRacer have excellent handling in stronger winds. In our club racing fleet we frequently have beginner/intermediate sailors complete all their races in fairly strong winds without any capsizes.
That huge stability makes the boats very forgiving.
Additionally the high volume of bow and stern – and that they are so similar – means the boat has no vices when heavily heeled. If it sticks its nose into a wave in stronger winds it will still go where the crew points it – very different from a pointy nosed dinghy.
Thus the “wow” from the commodore who is filming my bearaway to avoid the committee boat.
Numbers on boat performance Oz Goose Compared to Oz Racer
Ozracer performance.
So a big qualitative difference as we have numbers from GPS readings over time. What about the numbers.
I spent a day in light and moderate winds and smooth water sailing the Oz Racer around with a GPS.
The big sail pushes the small hull up a bit over hullspeed even in light winds. See a lot of speeds around 3.7 plus or minus 0.2knots.
Downwind is much the same. With significantly stronger winds the 8ft boat will burst up to 6 or 7 knots but quickly drop down to around 3.7 plus/minus with just a slight change in pressure.
Just before the first of our masts breaks we see the somewhat slow planing speed of the 8ft Oz Racer.
With ideal speed conditions of winds over 20knots and good waves it is possible to see occasional speeds higher, but it is very hard to get much faster than 9 knots.
Oz Goose Upwind – Light and Moderate conditions
We have had 5 years of racing the Oz Goose now in fleets. We have also had other crews come from other classes of boats and occasionally hand our butts to us – because they found something new. Also we have crews that have made speed breakthroughs within our group.
When winds are light and the crew is just sitting upright on the side deck speed is typically pretty much in line with the 8ft OzRacer – around 4 to 4.5 knots.
A bit more wind and crew goes out to full hiking and the best upwind speed seems to centre around 5.2 knots plus or minus about 0.2. This is a good speed to practice sailing at for solo practice if enough wind for full hiking – try to sail as high as possible while retaining this speed range. You can actually hear the difference … the thump thump sound of the boat hitting waves changes to a cush cush sound.
It is also important to know the idea of “luffing in gusts” upwind is an old and slow technique. It is no longer used in dinghy competition. If a gust comes … don’t luff – just ease sheet to keep the same angle of heel. This works because the boat keeps moving fast at the target speed. If you practice with GPS you will see that speed drops and the boat makes more leeway every time a gust hits if you try luffing.
Planing upwind in the Goose
More wind than this and the boats with two crew start to have another option that the solo sailors don’t have. We were taught this by the first PSA crew to join us. First race of ’18 Nationals was pretty strong – around 16 to 20knots of wind.
I don’t have the speed readings for how fast they were going but they were about 25 to 33 percent ahead of our best sailors. This gives an upwind speed of around 6.5 to 7 knots. Around 7 is the speed where the Goose starts to feel Loose in planing mode.
Why is this possible?
With two people aboard the righting moment has doubled but the increase in overall displacement has gone up somewhat less – maybe only by 50% – but the boat must be sailed very level by constant sheeting.
If the water is not too rough this is a very effective mode. Big waves can hamper this approach.
Downwind in the Oz Goose
We saw that the smaller boat mostly sailed a bit above 4 knots and required significant wind to get up to 6 or 7. This puts average speeds very firmly a bit above 4 knots
When the wind is lighter, sailing performance of the 12ft goose is probably around the same.
But a bit more wind and the Goose starts spending a lot 7 to 9 range where it comes alive and feels like it is doing something. It is starting to feel exciting and is quite effortless.
Once it is there it likes to be there and more wind means significantly greater speeds. Averages are much higher – 7, 8 or 9kn is possible for leg averages. Getting up towards double the OzRacer’s numbers.
Peak speeds (all on tideless lakes) have ` 12 , 12.9, 13.8 and 18.0 (for a full 2 seconds and three GPS points ).
SUMMARY – Design is always interesting when performance is not as expected
This was one of the huge surprises to me as a designer. Same cross section, same sail, same rocker, same righting moment, same foils.
A theoretical speed around 20% greater, – yet utterly utterly different.
This doesn’t mean that any design will benefit from extra length. For example I doubt adding more length to the goose would improve performance much.
But in the case of increasing the 8ft OzRacer hull by 50% we had a hull
with exceptional stability from the rectangular planform (which means power)
a very large sail for the hull length and width
overloaded with two sailors aboard
The Goose gives us
Much higher average speeds
A real sense of planing performance downwind
Upwind planing with two crew in stronger winds
Excelling light wind performance even with three adults aboard (instructor and two students)
6 thoughts on “Surprising speed difference 12ft Oz Goose vs 8ft OzRacer”
Interesting read. Thanks. It would be interesting to run the disp/length figures. And the D/L limited speeds. I wonder how a 16 foot version would go?
Judging by performance difference is it over some sort of hump.
D/L is a very crude measure. Further increases may not show the same benefit and start hurting in the Sail area to wetted surface.
Oz Goose designed 2008, Ian Henehan’s videos 2004 ?
Thanks Johan.
Should be 2014/15. I fixed the typo.
Very grateful Michael Storer
Has anyone tried shifting the transom forward an inch or so to allow the bottom hull panel to extend slightly past the transom? I wonder if this would help the boat plane (and hold the plane) a little easier by creating a sharp exit of the water surface tension as opposed to the 90 degree angle of the transom.
Hi Michael.
From the water’s point of view it sees no difference between the planing boards as you describe and a transom.
In general the thing we want there is a sharp edged corner. So we don’t usually glass tape along the edge of the transom.
As long as it is reasonably sharp the water will go straight. If it is rounded the water will go around the corner and make a little wave at the back of the boat implying energy lost from making the boat go forward.
So no difference.
There is a risk though. The overhang of the planing boards becomes a very easily damaged edge as it is a continuation of the bottom ply. And it adds a bit of fiddling to the building process.
So in the end … if the bottom and side edges of the transom are reasonably sharp, the planing boards are redundant.
Best wishes MIK
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The Oz Goose is a low-cost sailing dinghy that is easy to build and is perfect for clubs, regattas and learning to sail.
Australian boat designer Michael Storer created this fun sailing dinghy as a project that makes dinghy sailing accessible to everyone. Where he lives, in the Philippines, family and corporate groups are able to build ten Oz Racers for the same price as importing a single Laser dinghy.
The Oz Goose is light and simple to build, with no complicated woodwork. It also sails extremely well despite the low cost.
The Oz Goose will carry an instructor and two adults for sailing lessons, or one or two adults for club racing. It is equally at home with two adults and children aboard for family picnics.
The kit is for the epoxy filleted construction method. An alternative timber-framed method is also described in the plans, for builders in countries where timber is cheap.
The kit includes:
Pre-cut wooden panels (6 mm plywood) with pre-cut joints
Solid wood for gunwales, spacers and frames
Epoxy resin and activator
Epoxy fillers
Woven glass fabric
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Mast staves (for hollow wooden mast)
Wooden blanks for boom and yard
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Comprehensive building manual
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The kit does not include the sail or warp although we can supply them.
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The 114-page A4 plans for the Oz Goose are more like a book or a boat building course. They contain detailed information on each building step, including how to join the plywood, mark the shapes of the panels and use the epoxy.
The plans are highly detailed and fully dimensioned. That means that there is no poring over them with your scale rule and getting scale conversions wrong: the measurements you need to know are written in clear type and in the area that you are looking at.
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Substituting aluminium spars on the Oz Goose sail boat
The plans for the various Goose versions show timber spars, butwhat about Aluminium tubing for spars. Here are sizings in Imperial and Metric below.
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I do like the timber spars because they look nice. But you can save a bit of weight on the yard by using an alloy tube.
Brad Hickman did all the work on this and with a suitably modified boat derived from the OzRacer went on to win the PDRacer worlds. Six months after (???) there was an anonymous challenge to the legality of his boat. So it was measured and was found to be class legal. His boat is the one in the pic.
Correct Choice of Aluminium Alloy for Lug Masts and Spars
The correct aluminium alloys to choose for boat spars are in the 6000 series. The Temper must be T6 or the alloy will be too soft and the mast dent too easily or fold at the partner.
So typical numbers you will see are 6061-T6 6063-T6
A newer alternative below is a lower temper but has the same strength. The T5 Temper is not appropriate for the alloys above. 6005-T5
Aluminium spar diameters and wall thicknesses for the Oz Goose and OzRacer.
Also Ocean Explorer, Ooze Gooze and Goose Explorer
2.56
65
0.08
2.0
2.44
62
0.08
2.0
1.5
37
0.065
1.651
2
50
0.065
1.651
1/ I do think the mast will look much less nice than the timber version which has a classic taper. 2/ We do have a nice timber box boom design now. Contact me for details or see the “files” section on the Goose Facebook group . 3/ A class Legal Oz Goose can only use timber or untapered aluminium Yard. However the other boats have a Yard option of using a used 50% (or more) carbon spar from a windsurfer. Some regions they are very affordable. Here are the details and the instructions. NOTE – WINDSURF SPARS ARE NOT SUITABLE AS MASTS FOR THIS SIZE OF BOAT. THEY ARE FAR TOO FLEXIBLE AND THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE TO STIFFEN. Using a windsurfer mast for a lug rig yard on a Goat Island Skiff – Storer Boat Plans in Wood and Plywood
Aluminium spars in use on an Oz Racer
And just for general fun, here is Brad using the spars to motor upwind in his OzRacer derived boat using the Aluminium spars.
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I need to build a 3-part mast. Would 2 1/2 OD still be correct? I’m figuring my inner sleeves would be 2 feet each– 1 foot on each side of the split. Does that sound right? And is there any problem with using wooden yard and boom with an aluminum mast?
Absolutely fine. One option is that the top third of the mast can be the same section as used for the sleeve. It will save a little bit if weight and the taper effect will help the appearance.
Thanks very much, Mike. Re-examining this (after looking at the vendor and shipping options), I’m thinking of a 4-section. Bottom 2 sections would be 2.5 OD, upper 2 sections would be 2.25 OD, and top 15″ would be 2″ OD. All wall thicknesses would be 1/8″, not the 1/16″ mentioned above. Sleeves would be inserted 9″ into the outer tubes. Total weight for the mast would be around 25 lbs. Does that sound reasonable to you?
Normally a two piece aluminium mast will be lighter than the timber equivalent. . A three piece mast starts to be somewhat heavier than a timber mast and four piece heavier still.
I don’t know why you are planning to double the wall thickness – it will be a tank. Is there a problem getting the approx 1/8″ wall in the table above?
if there is no real compelling reason to go four piece I would go two or three.
After all, the yard and boom are already longer than half the mast which defines the stowage length. Looks like overkill unless you have something really specific in mind.
Saving weight in the rig is probably four times more effective than saving weight in the hull, but both will give you noticeable differences.
Thanks very much. The vendor says that the shipping has a surcharge for pieces over 58″. I’ve asked for more specifics about that surcharge, but I would guess I’ll end up with a 3-part. The vendor hasn’t responded with more specifics, yet.
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Oz Goose Sailboat, easy to Build. Excellent Family or Club Sailing Fun
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Goose Explorer Full Plans PDF. a Newer version of the discontinued Ooze Goose. The full plans contain both the OZ Goose plans and the Explorer Supplement - both are needed to build this boat. If you already have the plans for OZ Goose, you can build the Explorer by also purchasing the Explorer Supplement. Goose Explorer: Length 3666mm ( 12`3/8 ...
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The plans for the various Goose versions show timber spars, but what about Aluminium tubing for spars. Here are sizings. In some countries this is cheaper.
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The Oz Goose Sailboat introduces hundreds of people to sail. Simple, affordable, uses local materials, sails well at all times. 1-3 Adults.
Goose Explorer Full Plans PDF. a Newer version of the discontinued Ooze Goose. The full plans contain both the OZ Goose plans and the Explorer Supplement - both are needed to build this boat. If you already have the plans for OZ Goose, you can build the Explorer by also purchasing the Explorer Supplement. Goose Explorer: Length 3666mm ( 12`3/8 ...
The Oz Goose is one of the many boats inspired by the Bolger Brick. The pilot version of the Goose was 8′ long and 4.2′ wide; later versions were the current size, 12′ by 4′ 2″. Only a handful of prototypes were built, but in 2014, when Texan sailor Ian Henehan started posting videos of an early Goose planing up to 12 knots in ...
OZ Goose Plans PDF. To purchase printed plans for OZ Goose, click HERE. A kit for this boat is available from JO Woodworks. Easy to handle - when heeled in a gust the helm is very balanced and neutral - a small child can steer very easily. The Goose was introduced as a larger family version of the OzRacer some 6 years ago.
construction photos of the Ooze Goose sail boat. from April to June of 2012
Sailboat with Stability and Good Performance The Oz Goose is a 12ft sailboat with enormous stability from its box planform which also makes it very easy to build and a powerful sailer. It was formerly called the PD Goose. The green boat is being steered by Cherrie Pinpin who just came third in the Paralympic worlds in Kiel. The white boat is Clytie Bernardi who came fourth in Kiel. See ...
The Oz Goose plans available. One plan with all the detail for every step in the boat building. Includes sailmaking if you want to make your own. Step by step detail instructions with plenty of diagrams and photos.
Discovering the Oz Goose. by Ian Henehan - Dallas, Texas - USA. Sail Oklahoma photos by Dan Rogers. Last winter my father and I started building two Oz Goose sailboats. We got one of them finished up in the spring and have spent the summer and fall learning how to get the most out of the boat. Our initial requirements were pretty simple.
Why the Goose makes sense for beginning sailors through to intermediate. And how it is fun for experienced sailors too. 12.9 knots measured top speed and plenty of time above 10, yet a docile boat that moves well with a family or instructor plus two students aboard.
Ooze Goose sailboat, full side view and sailing Sean Michael 81 subscribers Subscribed 66 15K views 12 years ago Full side view with full sails, sailing and having ful ...more
Instructional video series for building the Oz Goose Sailboat step by step. Can start from a precut plywood kit or locally bought plywood.
A huge performance difference between the 12ft Oz Goose and the 8ft OzRacer with same hullform and same sail. Much more than expected. Why?
The Oz Goose is a low-cost sailing dinghy that is easy to build and is perfect for clubs, regattas and learning to sail. Australian boat designer Michael Storer created this fun sailing dinghy as a project that makes dinghy sailing accessible to everyone.
I was looking over the group archives and realised the drawings give some viewpoints that would be highly useful to builders. We have Goose builders in every continent and quite a few of the more significant islands as well 🙂 In essence it is a CAD Model of the Oz Goose. Ben was building an actual boat at the same time.
a Newer version of the discontinued Ooze Goose. The full plans contain both the OZ Goose plans and the Explorer Supplement - both are needed to build this boat.
Re: Michael Storer's Oz Goose. One aspect of the boat is the surprising speed. Over the past two years the peak speed has been raised from 12 knots to 13 knots. It is currently at 13.8. Helpfully the records were all set on tideless freshwater lakes in Texas and the Philippines. Boat Design and Boat Building Articles.
Goose Explorer is a cabin version of Michael storer´s Ozgoose sailboat with a bit more rocker. Small cabin gives cosy space for two or plenty of space for one sailor. Cockpit is really big so this boat is suprisigly spacy for it size. Compared to OozeGooze, Goose Explorer has less windage and more simple rig. OozeGoose has higher cabin ...
a Newer version of the discontinued Ooze Goose. The full plans contain both the OZ Goose plans and the Explorer Supplement - both are needed to build this boat.
Oz Goose Sailboat Plans are available now from our agents worldwide in North America, Australia, South Africa, UK, France and Hungary.
Thinking of building a Ooze Goose soon : r/sailing. TOPICS. Go to sailing. r/sailing. r/sailing. /r/Sailing is a place to ask about, share, show, and enjoy all about sailing, sail boat racing, and technical discussions. As long as it is about sailing and civil, it is welcome here.
Apr 26, 2016 - Explore Dan Hohman's board "Ooze Goose", followed by 240 people on Pinterest. See more ideas about boat, boat building, boat plans.
Here is a photo of George Nodalo - Philippines Goose #16 (28 Oz Geese now in the nation) trying out his new Torqueedo Electric outboard. Low power is most suitable for these boats - 3hp max as more power won't make them faster. Plus a small motor means only a tiny modification to the transom is required.
The plans for the various Goose versions show timber spars, but what about Aluminium tubing for spars. Here are sizings. In some countries this is cheaper.