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Hey, all all this about masts, I am removing mine, what is involved in painting a mill finish, mast white. This can be done with a brush and roller, yes?....Prep? thanks Red Have a look at the post on our site, http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/2008/01/refurbishing-spars.html Rolling and tipping is very easy if you go that way. Chuck Chuck's site is an excellent description of the process. Very similar to my experience which I just finished last week. I work alone so it took several days. My mast is long and heavy and requires at least three supports. I built cradles to keep the mast lying with the sail track up and then never turned it. But I masked it off and did two sections where there were no supports(barrels). Then used a jack to support the mast while moving the barrels. Then did the other two sections. Did this with one coat of primer and again for two coats of paint. And I used a 3" brush for everything. I did not remove any hardware, only the rigging and spreaders. Tested my painting skills at home with the spreaders and two booms. This was my first attempt using an epoxy(2-part) paint. I primed with Interlux Epoxy Primer and painted with Interlux Perfection. I have very little time for boat work so did not seek perfection with the prep. But the mast was in bad shape from the wire rubbing in a transport from Florida to Lake Erie. The results are amazing. AttachmentsLooks good Ed My masts are a pretty beatup alluminum now and I want to paint them white. I dont want to have to remove all my hardware either. So I take heart in your approach Did the finish come out smooth and even? I saw one paint job and it looked like the owner used a roller - sort of eggshell type finish How long did it take you to do the prep ? painting ? Bill guys - i painted my mast several years ago and it was a much bigger job than anticipated; but very well worth the effort and the painted mast / boom dramatically increased the overall look of my boat. Its all in the prep and I would recommend removing all hardware and do it right and do it once. I also replaced my standing rigging and mast wiring. Use a 2-part paint and at the end of the day, I think brush-tip method will be fine. I actually sprayed mine with a 2-part but think brush-tip would have resulted the much the same. You don't need that much of a glimmer on a mast verses doing a hull for example. Paint the mast, boom and spreaders and it will make the boat look sharp. Good luck - Rob redhead78 said: Hey, all all this about masts, I am removing mine, what is involved in painting a mill finish, mast white. This can be done with a brush and roller, yes?....Prep? thanks Red Click to expand rhythmsurferI just had my hunter 36 mast and boom totally redone. It was sanded to bare metal, primed and 2-3 coats of awlgrip. It took the guy 80 hrs and it was sanded by hand and sprayed. He told me NOT to use an electric sander. The mast has a lot of photos due to the boat being docked at a local restaurant. (Fish House Pensacola) They post a picture almost every morning on Facebook. I have gotten lots of compliments. Total cost of sanding and paint including labor and materials- $3000. Totally worth it. Do it right. The PO had done some painting on the mast (roll/tip) and this caused the sail track to be stuck to the mast. Paint job would have been cheaper if it wouldn't have been for that. On the subject of Aluminium.. am restoreing aluminium portlights, were severly oxidized. Weeks of grinding and scrubbing , finally twin etched them with aluminium conditioner and they allmost look good. As was advised me, I primed them with zinc chromate.. I planned on painting them with something like an Aluminium finish Rustolium then overcoat them with a clear coat of U.V. protection 1 part polyurethane.. Dont want to do this project again in this life time am I going about this wrong ?? Scott T-BirdUsing the Interlux products ... I sanded all the old black paint off down to bare aluminum because I wanted Snow White and didn't want any chance of the old paint being visible. I did the boom the year before I did my mast, so it was good practice and I learned that you don't want to skip the step of etching the aluminum with the Interlux product that they recommend before applying the 2-part primer. I forget the exact name of the product but you will find it in their literature. After several years, I have found that the primer adheres to the aluminum mast far better because I used the etching coat. It is highly toxic so you will want a good respirator when applying it. I didn't use it on the boom and chips in the paint go thru to the aluminum. For prep, I removed all bolts and fittings that weren't riveted to the mast. I left the saddles for the spreaders, the gooseneck, and the vang attachement in place because they were secured with SS rivets and I didn't want to remove them. I see no downside to leaving them in place. I merely used a brush around those saddles and it was easily finished as nicely as if they had been removed. I didn't use a roller anywhere, I merely used a brush. With minimal care, I had no brushmarks, runs, drips or errors. You will love the look of your boat when it is finished. Some people think that the gloss finish is too much glare and might recommend the product that flattens the glare. I disagree. The whiter and the glossier the mast and the boom is, the better. Glare is not an issue. The trickiest part in my mind was not allowing too much paint to accumulate in the sail track but still get coverage inside. I would like to hear comments about how to address that issue. Thought I'd post a picture ... I've had a factory painted mast. I've had a bare mast... And I can't imagine why anyone would risk painting one. If you have ANY failures in the coating near and attachment point or spreader you are going to see greatly accelerated galvanic corrosion at that point. Normally, corrosion is spread over the entire surface, but with paint it will be concentrated, probably at the spreaders and foot. If aesthetics are more important to you, paint it. And watch the touch-up work. Many masts are painted at original issue. Mine was painted black and the paint had flaked away to bare metal all over the place after 20 odd years. When I sanded off the original paint and removed all fasteners that were screwed in, bolted in or riveted with aluminum rivets, there was absolutely no indication of deterioration anywhere on the mast, boom, spreaders or at any ss saddle attachment. The spreaders and foot of the sail seem the least likely to see any chips in the paint since the only place were wearing is a problem is where shackles have a tendancy to knock against the mast or boom. I would be concerned about galvanic corrosion between the ss fittings and the aluminum, but have not seen any indication of degradation of the aluminum at those locations and the paint does not have a tendancy to wear at those locations because there is no abrasion. - This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies. Accept Learn more…
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Mast PaintingI just got an estimate from the yard for painting the mast and boom it looks chipped and not very seamanlike at all. does 2500.00 seem like a bunch of money it''s only a thirty foot boat to break it down it goes like this lift time 150.00 labor 165.00 r&r standing rigging 220.00 prep and paint mast and boom 1485.00 plus 400.00 material thats a lot of paint? retune mast 110.00 this seems like a gotcha to me, I may be wrong, but I''am willing to be educated on this not sure I want to pay the price but willing to learn. Kryst! For that kind of money I’d bet you could buy brand new sticks for your 30 footer, paint and all! For all it''s worth, why not paint it yourself? Someone out here''s got to know what kind of paint to use and how to prep the aluminum and existing paint (I doubt you''d expect to need the same results as found on the presidential yacht or the like). Besides, wouldn’t it make you that much more proud of ol’ Betsy to be able to say that you did it yourself? Just as a note, I painted my mast but that one''s wood. I used regular old Pittsburgh house paint and it is holding up great after better then 5 years of hard use! Pi Yikes! I was going to paint mine as well but after looking at you''re estimate I''m am definetely painting the mast myself. I pick up Don Casey''s book on sailboat refinishing and it covers mast painting, prepping, etching, priming, etc.. It''s pretty interesting reading if I say so myself. Then alls you need to do is pay riggers to remove/replace the mast, tune the rig and your off! For that matter, why pay for someone to step and unstep the mast? There are public rigs set up on either side of the bridges of the Shinnecock canal here on Long Island, and they''re very easy to use by just two people. If you''re in an area with a canal or other waterway with low bridges, you might have access to free rigs to pull and step masts too. Free lifts? Not here in the west..SF Bay that I know of. Pretty good..I''d go that route myself. Get the book on painting first. Lee Holy mackerel!!!! If it''s aluminum and for that kind of money I think I would look into having it black anodized. You''ll never need it painted again. And if your mast sits on a step on deck you can step it yourself. I have a HD 27'' mast that I step everytime I take it out (trailered s/v). If it steps on the keel then you''ll need a lift. What would the cost of a new mast be? We repainted ours - it was painted originally and the paint was totally oxidized and missing in many areas. It is A LOT OF WORK. The money does not seem unreasonable. The paint is expensive (we had awlgrip - 2 coats) as are the acid washes (2) and the primers (3). You have to remove EVERYTHING that is removable. This takes a lot of time. You have to CAREFULLY label everything and drop it in ziploc bags or you will never get it put back together. You have to sand EVERY spec of paint off. You have to sand any corroded areas. Then you have to tape anything left that should not be acid washed (stainless fittings). Then you acid wash with one type of product. Then you acid wash with a different type. Then you have to get the first primer on within 3-6 hours of the last wash, which has to be done right after the first wash. The primer has to go on with time to dry before the dew point, so you have to start early. And you will work non stop for hours. Eat a large breakfast and get going. Then 2 more primers. Then you sand with 320 BY HAND. Then you can paint. We did all the work ourselves with the exception of the painting and priming. We paid a painter with a sprayer to spray the primers and the awlgrip. Don''t forget to do the spreaders, the boom, and the mast head. Still want to do it yourself? If you don''t do the prep and all the steps, why bother? It won''t last. $2500 seems cheap now that I''ve done it myself. sadie14 Whew!! I think I will take a nap!! Wondering why my wallet is lighter, my arms sore and this extra bag of screws? Everything you say is true, I just didn''t realize it until after I was done. Though, now it is the brightest, shiniest stick in the marina!! Well worth it. Oh, you forgot to warn them about the cost and time of the other projects that creep in like new mast wiring, new anchor and steaming lights (LED, of course, new deck lights.......... You''re right, John. We also rewired, re-halyarded, re-rigged (ourselves, stayloc), re-lighted, greased winches, new screws on every re-used part. We love the results, but honestly, I would NEVER do it again. (Until I forget the pain.) It was a huge job - not to be undertaken lightly. Just had a 55'' main and 30'' mizzen painted.. quote from a good yard was for 2800 had big blow out when I got 7400 bill. Starting to think sometimes new is better than maintenance...but disposable mast<g> I have painted several masts. remove all the stuff you can, sand, prime & paint with a brush, roller or spray. Our best paint job was done with the roll & tip method using Brightside paint. The manifacturer instructions will lead you to a beautiful job. John mast painting Capt Sea Weed has got it right, sand with 80 grit then 220 then etching primer. I shot mine with urethane 2 part light grey it came out automotive finish just get a good prep its only aluminum I''m in the process of painting the mast on my Islander 30 as I type. Using International two part Interthane. I''ve done this before on a previous boat (12 years ago) and it still looks like new. It is a tough paint to apply right but the finish is great. The solvents and paints (prime wash, primer and finish) smell real bad. I''ve pretty well finished the boom, mast step and spreaders, starting next week on the 40 ft mast in the garage (keep the doors open through the laundry room and into the workshop!). The paint is expensive as are the thinners. I calculated that the entire paint job will cost be about $300.00. But it is an enormous amount of work. The mast is 25 years old and badly corroded. Lots of sanding and filling, let alone trying to get the stainless fittings off (can you say grinding and drilling?!?) And then while it''s down the wiring will be replaced, the halyards put inside, new lights and new rigging to go with the Harken furler. Lots of fun (and money!). Good luck. Ken, In my opinion 2500. is a very reasonable estimate for unstepping, stripping, preparing, painting, reassembling, restepping and retuning the rig. You would be well advised to take lots of pics or even video the mast and fittings before the disassembly starts wether you have it done by the yard or do it yourself. While the rig is down consider everything else you might want to do. Such as tri-color light, new wiring, antenna, lightning dissapter, conduit if you don''t have it now, etc. etc. Any mast work goes easier and faster when it''s laying on horses. Make sure that the threads of any fasteners that are added after the paint job are coated with an insulating material to prevent corrosion. Bottom line: this is a big job and you should be prepared to be involved every step of the way no matter who does the actual work. Good luck Thanks for all the input folks. I think I''ll try to do the mast next year,It''s 70 degrees today and the water is calling,besides the budget is shot for this year and I still have to find a source for teak in the bay area I''m just not use to paying ten a board foot for solid woods would a spruce or fir hold up on a grating? Ken, the only places I''ve found here in the Bay Area are 1. Axelrod & Co. Teak - 415-626-4949 2. Exotic Hardwoods & Veniers - 510-436-5702 3. Handloggers 305 Cutting Blvd., Richmond, CA 94804 Tollfree: 800-461-1969 Tel: 510-231-6190 3. McBeath Hardwoods -510-843-4390; 415-647-0782 4. White Bros. Lumber -510-261-1600 5. Woods Unlimited -510-895-5266 As far as I know and heard Spruce and Fir won''t hold up out there. It''s far too acidic. Check on a wood called Afromosia...same properties as Teak....same look....much cheaper! Geees!Here I was thinking about doing my mast and boom, also. It's 36 years old, an original Spartan on my Cape Dory 25'. I've done everything else on my boat, from top to bottom, and although I know it would be a lot of work, time and effort, I can't see how it would be all that expensive. On the other hand, maybe prices have gone up quite a bit since I last did a major project. Maybe I'll just get a 12VDC blender and start making some margaritas and think about this for a few years! Fair winds..... sailorsloopy Ken… When you finish your mast painting you’ll need something to make you chuckle…your search for teak reminded me of this story…A sailor in San Rafael called a local lumber company and asked if they carried teak wood. Oh si, senor, said the helpful clerk who answered the phone. We have lots of teak wood. Great, said the San Rafael sailor, I’ll be right down. When the sailor arrived at the lumberyard he found mahogany, rosewood and apitong but no teak. Frustrated he went to the front desk. Hi, he said, I called earlier and you said you had teak wood here but I can’t fine it. Oh pardon, senor… we have lots of teak wood. What kind do you want and how teak do you want it… one inch or two inch teak. Top Contributors this Month |
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Re: Recommend Me a Mast Paint. "... Bare Aluminum: Wipe the surface free of oil and grease with Pettit 120 Thinner. Remove oxidation and etch the surface with medium grit emery cloth; remove sanding residue. Apply one thin "wet" coat of 6455/044 Metal Primer; allow to dry at least two hours. Proceed with the first coat of Easypoxy.
Most painted masts are white and there are so many shades of the color that a perfect match is all but impossible. The best answer is to purchase the exact paint used the last time the spar was painted. If not, an "almost the same" color will look just fine and more importantly, corrosion will be halted dead in its tracks.
The right answer is to do everything possible to separate dissimilar metals. Putting a Delrin strip or dielectric PTFE tape between the hardware and the mast wall really helps. When installing larger stainless steel hardware on a mast, it's easy to cut out a gasket from a sheet of 30 mil thick Teflon.
Jay Tracy. Mar 17, 2004. #5. Painting an old alum. mast. We repainted our alum. mast but used a different approach as suggested by a rigger. He suggested we wet sand the mast, wash it off, treat it with alum. prepainting solution and paint it with Krylon clear enamel.
After a rough surface prep you will want to use Alumiprep (acid etch/cleaner) follow directions for dilution, let dwell for 5 minutes or so and rinse with plenty of fresh water. Then you will want to make sure the surface is dry and the temperature is over 70 degrees at min., hotter is much better, and then coat with Alodine.
I did the mast on my 26 footer thirty years ago. Used two-part epoxy paint (Awlgrip). Removed all the mast hardware, sanded it down to bare metal, used the proper etcher and primers, and applied a few coats of paint. Sold the boat a few years later, then saw it about 20 years later and the mast looked great. Anything less than properly applied ...
Un-Stepping the Mast for America's Great Loop. ... an aircraft paint company executive decided to paint his boat with the same stuff used to coat aircraft that flew at 450 knots—the stuff that seemed immune to UV degradation and shed hydraulic fluid like water off a duck's back. ... a best-of-both-worlds formulation that boasts of shine ...
Originally Posted by nfbr. 27yo white painted aluminium mast is losing paint / showing surface corrosion at most rivet / screw points. This basically means the stainless hardware wasn't installed right the first time. Unless it is all removed and installed with Ted-Gel or Duralac you can expect a repeat. Quote:
Put on a coat of over priced yellow stuff. Put on some over priced primer in less than 24 hours OR do the yellow again. Try and find some way to get all the stuff back on without dinging the paint which takes 14 days to full cure. Perfection or Awlgrip is Like Ford and Chevy. Do a bunch of sailing and enjoy it.
To paint anodized first degrease using Fiberglass Solvent Wash 202. Then give it a heavy sanding using 60 or 80-grit sandpaper. Apply one coat of InterProtect 2000E (Thinned 15-20% with 2316N Reducing Solvent). Allow to dry overnight and apply a second coat of either Epoxy Primekote (thinned 25%) or Pre-Kote primer.
bob77903. 178 posts · Joined 2008. #5 · Jul 30, 2015. Just painted my mast. Sanded the old paint with 80 grit, removing half of it to bare aluminum. Washed the sanded mast with acid bath, and primed with zinc chromate. Sanded primer with 280 grit, and finished coated with Awlcraft 2000 Jet Black....
I repainted our wooden mast 3 years ago with Alexseal epoxy paint. This was the same paint used to re-coat the rest of the boat. The previous coating (type of paint unknown but PROBABLY some sort of one part enamel) was degraded. Good sanding, NOT down to bare wood, epoxy primer on the bare/worn spots and 2 coats of Alexseal.
Jan 2, 2006. #7. Painting a mast. In 1996, I painted my Irwin 31 Citation's aluminum mast and boom Imron beige, matching the new paint for the hull and deck. Although the boat was sold two years ago, it remains in the harbor near my new boat. The mast paint is holding up extremely well although there are spots of corrosion in a few places.
If it was my 16' boat, I'd either do the mast right or not do it. I say that because it's aluminum, and painting aluminum is more difficult to paint properly as compared to wood, steel, or fiberglass. Paint doesn't like to stick to it unless the surface has been properly prepared. That means, as others have suggested, properly abrading it.
There's a lot going on in this video as we try to get the boat ready for launch. We repaint the topsides after our our last coat of paint went terribly wrong...
I have a friend who just bought a boat with an aluminum painted mast.There is some bubbling of paint around some of the fittings but overall the mast looks great and the step and bottom of the mast are fine. The quote he got to remove all the mast hardware and repaint is a good deal higher than he wants to spend. I've never liked the idea of painting aluminum because it always seems to have ...
3)Alodine, a really weird chemical that treats the metal. 4) zinc chromate primer, cheap and widely available in hardware stores. 5) topcoat like Awlgrip. Edit: don't let it sit too long between the chemicals, follow the directions but if you leave the aluminum exposed to salt air a long time it defeats the purpose.
Catalina 22 home. Jul 4, 2011. #8. Anodizing is just a controlled corrosion, somewhat along the lines of gun bluing on steel. There is no reason to avoid painting it. First, wash with detergent, rinse and dry; then wipe down with acetone, naptha, or some similar solvent to remove all traces of wax. Ideally, you should roughen the surface with a ...
The mast paint wasn't in good shape and the mast had been removed and stowed for shipping with the boat, so it was an opportune time to paint it before install. I wanted to do the job right and was diligent in seeking professional assistance before undertaking such a job for the first time.
It's good I was sitting down at the time because it's a bit more than I expected. $4,616.17 to be exact. They propose to chemically strip, etch, prime and paint the 40 foot mast, boom & spreaders with Awlgrip. The breakdown is $3,570 for 42 hours labor @$85/hour, $959.79 for supplies & materials, and $86.38 tax.
I moved a boat from San Diego to Port Townsend, in the spring of 2017. The mast was showing some corrosion and loosing paint in several spots. So on the advice of a well know PT Boat Rigger, I scraped and sanded those areas, wiped it down with Denatured Alcohol, painted the bare spots with zinc chromate, sanded that lightly and recoated any bare spots again with zinc chromate and applied a ...
Use a 2-part paint and at the end of the day, I think brush-tip method will be fine. I actually sprayed mine with a 2-part but think brush-tip would have resulted the much the same. You don't need that much of a glimmer on a mast verses doing a hull for example. Paint the mast, boom and spreaders and it will make the boat look sharp. Good luck ...
87689 posts · Joined 1999. #11 · Feb 27, 2003. I have painted several masts. remove all the stuff you can, sand, prime & paint with a brush, roller or spray. Our best paint job was done with the roll & tip method using Brightside paint. The manifacturer instructions will lead you to a beautiful job. John.