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Fix the forestay ASAP! The broken strands not only weaken the forestay, but they are called "meathooks" for a reason. The clip is probably meant to secure the boom to the backstay, possibly with another line. Yes, you may need to cleat that line to hold the centerboard down. Many center (and rudder) boards are buoyant, and require the line to keep them in the water. Get a chart, or chart plotter app, and avoid the shallows, so that you don't endanger the centerboard. Because the business that produced the Precision line of boats is still in business, you can contact them for model specific support.  

Thanks for the reply Ya I use navionics on my phone when I take the Jon boat out gigging, will do the same on the sailboat. There is no back stay and doesn't appear there was ever a place for one. The shrouds are aft of the mast and seem to make the triangle plenty strong to hold the mast with just 3 cables. I guess I should contact precision n see what kind of info I can get on the boat setup from them.  

On my Stuart Mariner (19ft), the CB pennant and cam cleat holds the centerboard up, not down. Most centerboards are weighted to drop on their own, and the pennant is used to raise it. The cleat allows you to tie it off in the up position or any partially down position. The CB will still kick up on striking an obstacle. Tying off the CB in the up position is needed for trailering or beaching, and the partially up position for sailing in shallow water. Swing keels, which are very heavy centerboards (hundreds of pounds) generally made of cast iron, sometimes need to fixed in the down position to prevent damage to the boat when sailing. Fred W Stuart Mariner #4133 Sweet P Yeopim Creek on the north shore of Albemarle Sound  

I agree that the cleat is more likely to hold the CB UP . There is frequently a cleat on the rudder, to hold it down.  

There's actually 2 ropes and 2 holes. There's one with a guide that goes further down the centerboard. That obviously holds it up. This other one is on the top of the centerboard above the deck so there's no way it could hold the centerboard up, it seems it could only hold it down. Will take a pic tomorrow.  

Hi Dalobstah. You actually have a furling headsail. Congrats on that. The damage to the foresail is from he way the stay has been lowered or stowed for trailering. It is worth keeping that is mind in the future. More photos of your centerboard and rudder will help us understand how they are held in place. However, one of the benefits of having the boat out in the yard is that you can fiddle with stuff till you get it working just right. For a bit of inspiration, here are some vids of how boats like yours are used in Australia and by the famous Roger in France. Lots a fun. gary  

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View attachment 145941 So we sailed a local little lake today for our maiden voyage… it went great! My son was amazed by how fast we sailed in light winds compared to his optimists! Love the boat and absolutely ready to go bigger after we replace that forestay  

suggest you to check out the precisionboatworks.com website. Look at the Precision 15 owners manual there. Not sure of the differences, but probably they are similar. I owned a P-15 some years ago and had great fun with it. Enjoy yours!  

Also, happy to answer any questions you might have.  

You can clip the main halyard on the boom end to support the boom.  

Awesome thanks man. Ya I still haven’t figured out supporting the boom but it doesn’t seem to mind just being suspended by the sail. The center board stays down just fine. the only issues we’ve still been having is once we get over about 5kn the rudder will kick up a bit. I don’t see anyway to lock it down but maybe just tightening the bolt would help? then stepping and lowering the mast hasn’t been as easy as I’d like either. There’s gotta be a better trick to that that I haven’t figured out.  

A trick with some dinghies when stepping the mast is to lay them on their side. Fitting the mast and stays on a horizontal plane is easier. Not All dinghies though.  

"then stepping and lowering the mast hasn’t been as easy as I’d like either. There’s gotta be a better trick to that that I haven’t figured out." On the Mariners (25ft mast on a 19ft boat), stepping (or lowering) the mast single handed is challenging. For my initial launch (boat new to me last March), I attached the jib halyard to the trailer winch strap. That worked, but there's a scary point where the mast can sway sideways before the shrouds tighten up. To raise/lower the mast with the boat in the water, several people add a gin pole on the forward side of the mast, mounting a trailer winch on the gin pole. Again, preventing side sway while the mast is part way up is the challenge. To prevent the side sway, some have added electrical conduit A-frame which sits on the jib sheet blocks and slides in the mainsail luff slot. I am going to try some baby stays first using 5/16" line rigged to mast tangs and flush padeyes on deck in line with the mast step. By being in line with the mast step, I'm hoping the baby stays will be tight enough to check any sway until the shrouds take over. On the Mariner, the shroud chain plates are aft of the mast a decent amount, the backstay is almost an unnecessary afterthought except for depowering the 3/4 rig. But this means the shrouds are pretty slack until the mast is well above the crutch. Hopefully this provides some ideas. Fred W Stuart Mariner #4133 Sweet P Yeopim Creek, NC north side of Albemarle Sound between Edenton and Hertford  

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I recently purchased a 2005 Precision 23. Took it out for our first sail this past weekend. Coming from a Compac Legacy 16ft, which is a terrific and tough boat. The cabin design of the 23 was so great as to use as much space as possible. Even though there is only about 51 inches of headroom it wasnt unpleasant to move around in. The companion way hatch is very long, so as to them galley area the headroom you need. The boat was very easy to sail. Sailing with a 110% jib, the windward peformance was fantastic. The sail design enables this boat to really perform. We had a short sail and didn't get to set out on a long reach, but so far I'm impressed. The boat was in excellent condition, with the inside being absolutely like new with no wear and tear evidence at all. The outside exhibited great condition as well. Had to make a few sail repairs, but other than that all is great. Comes with a great trailor and mast raising system. Trailor handles very well and stable. Any other precision 23 owners out there, please reply as I would like to learn more about my new boat. greg perdido key, florida  

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The Precision 23 is a great boat. Used to sell them and never heard a complaint.  

Hello and Congratulations, Do you trailer your boat? We looked at a 21 and a 23 about two weeks ago, but bought an 18 this week. Our vehicle might have been challanged by either of the other two boats plus trailer. Day sailing is our plan for the near future. The boat and trailer are undergoing the usual cleaning, refinishing, and recaulking that we give any project boat. I have been reading every review I can find on these boats, and we're getting anxious to get her back into the water. We've scouted two ramps here in Cape Coral and will try the deeper one first unless I can rig the tongue extension by the time the boat is finished. Phil  

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31seahorse said: Hello and Congratulations, Do you trailer your boat? We looked at a 21 and a 23 about two weeks ago, but bought an 18 this week. Our vehicle might have been challanged by either of the other two boats plus trailer. Day sailing is our plan for the near future. The boat and trailer are undergoing the usual cleaning, refinishing, and recaulking that we give any project boat. I have been reading every review I can find on these boats, and we're getting anxious to get her back into the water. We've scouted two ramps here in Cape Coral and will try the deeper one first unless I can rig the tongue extension by the time the boat is finished. Phil Click to expand

Barnacle Bill said: The Precision 23 is a great boat. Used to sell them and never heard a complaint. Click to expand

Hello Greg, Thanks for the response. Our boat is a week or two of hard work from her relaunch. We are putting parts back on the hull instead of tearing more off! I call that progress. We plan to sail on Charlotte Harbor and on the Caloosahatchee River here between Ft Myers and Cape Coral. We are excited about all the good comments regarding these boats. Phil  

Congrats on the new boat! I weekend sail a Precision 21 and found it to be a great little boat. It's my first boat and I'm a new sailor. The performance is exciting yet still forgiving of my (many) newbie mistakes! The 21 cabin is a lot smaller than your 23 but the wife and I still find it suitable for sleeping on during the summer. Enjoy the new boat!  

We looked real hard at a 21 and came close to buying a new one, because of the price difference for 2 ft. We were fortunate to have found a good used one before we pulled the trigger on a new one. In looking at the 21 it really had a good layout and didn't see giving up much as for as the cabin layout. Can't find anything bad about the boats yet. Oh do remember to recaulk or seal where your shrouds go through cabin deck once a year. I think 3M 5200 is what you are suppose to use. This is just maintenance, but in looking I saw a few p23's which had water streaks in the area. Greg  

We're really happy with our boat and I think you'll like yours too. They're really nice, well thought out boats. They can really get moving too, I'm sure you'll surprise some larger boats when you sail by! I think the chainplates on all boats will eventually leak if not maintained. Precision Boatworks one and only adhesive for literally everything is the 3M 5200. If it's glued down from the factory then it's guaranteed to be 5200. Tenacious stuff, but not necessarily always the best choice in my opinion especially for maintenance items like chainplates. My chainplates are still dry after two years but when the time comes I'm going to use butyl tape in lieu of the 5200. It should last longer and still be easier to remove when required.  

When I purchased my boat I added some "baby stays". $198 installed all stainless. They attached to the mast when putting up or down. A must when lowering or raising the mast. Especially in the wind. I have seen some elaborate setups that does the same thing, but these are really simple to attach and use.  

Can you post some details of your baby stays? I have been thinking of doing the same thing and am curious as to how you did it.  

Sorry in taking so long to reply about the baby stays. I do not have the specs, there are two pieces of cable configuerations. they attach to the bottom at the 2nd and 3rd lifeline stanchions on each side attaching to a single connection on each side of the mast. The cables are measured to specific lengths so that when you bring the mast up or down, it does not bind nor does it sway. I got mine at Rooke sails in Memphis, you can google them. They could probaly send you the hardware and instructions on how to install them. The best money I ever spent. Greg  

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