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Lagoon 55 review: new iteration remains quintessential cat

• October 14, 2021

34 years on from the original Lagoon 55, the new iteration shows how much catamaran design has evolved towards loft living with a sea view from the terrace. François Tregouet reports

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The number 55 holds a special place in the history of Lagoon – it was its inaugural model, launched back in 1987. The 2021 version of the Lagoon 55, still designed by VPLP, is the quintessential modern cruising catamaran according to the world leader in the multihull market. Yachting World was able to hop aboard to measure just how far we’ve come from one millennium to the next.

Legend has it that the first Lagoon 55 was christened Lagoon , and that her owner drew the logo, the now famous palm frond, on a restaurant tablecloth.

After years of sailing on the family’s First 456, she wanted to ‘sail flat and have more space’. Convinced of the advantages of the catamaran, she wanted the silhouette to ‘resemble that of a monohull ’.

Flying a Code 0 kept the Lagoon 55 moving in our light airs trial. Photo: Lagoon / Nicolas Claris

Thirty-four years later, three design studios were involved in the creation of the brand-new Lagoon 55, including former Renault chief designer Patrick Le Quément on the exterior design. The imposing topsides deliver taut lines, sculpted bows and a pronounced lower chine to maximise interior living space yet minimise wetted surface area.

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A new feature from the Bordeaux-based yard is that the sugarscoop transoms extend beyond the topsides to make access to the boat easier. Once aboard, two steps lead up to the cockpit which is flush-decked with the aft platform. With the mainsheet track now on the bimini the aft beam disappears, freeing up the view and your options for moving around: this is a real terrace on the sea.

Aerial view shows off the new Lagoon 55’s outdoor living areas on foredeck, flying bridge and main deck. Photo: Lagoon / Nicolas Claris

Such fluidity of circulation is also to be found in the forward cockpit, no longer ‘dug’ into the foredeck but integrated seamlessly on the same level as the trampoline. With its comfortable seating, two options for sun protection and communication with the interior via the opening front window, this is a completely revised living space.

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Higher up, it seems there’s now no longer a question of whether to have a flybridge on a 55ft cat – it’s a mandatory feature. The optional rigid bimini obviously means the boom is quite a lot higher, compelling the crew to undertake some challenging manoeuvres.

A second access to the flybridge on the starboard side deck, an option not fitted on our test boat, will avoid the need for any further acrobatics. Without it, it’s a long way from the helm to the foredeck via the aft cockpit to, for example, set the Code 0.

Forward sun deck continues seamlessly onto the trampoline. Photo: Lagoon / Nicolas Claris

These couple of reservations aside, the flybridge has a lot going for it. In addition to the forward and aft sunbathing areas and the outdoor galley, the forward-facing flybridge table and seating is very pleasant – in good weather and moderate wind anyway.

From their position to starboard, the person at the helm has a very good 270° view for manoeuvring off the pontoon and leaving harbour. At the foot of the mast, which has been moved aft in keeping with current trends, all sailing manoeuvres are carried out using three winches. The mainsail is hoisted and the self-tacking genoa unfurled with ease, by a single crewmember.

Aft cockpit and lounging areas are protected from the heat of the sun by the flybridge above. Photo: Lagoon / Nicolas Claris

However, on the day of our test, the Catalan coast was building up a swell, and the wind wasn’t forecast to exceed 9 knots. There was a lack of square metres to our white sails to get the fully-laden 33 tonnes moving forward. So a 154m² Code 0 was quickly unfurled, allowing us to sail at between 5.5 and 6.5 knots with the wind on the beam.

We then bore off under the 272m² asymmetric spinnaker at an average of 5.5 knots before returning upwind (40° to the apparent) at 5 knots. The Lagoon is very easy to handle, and with a little more time – and wind– we might have validated the 8- to 9-knot average speeds claimed by the works crew on their European tour.

Italian influence

The third group to have worked on this version 3.0 of the Lagoon 55 is Nauta Design, who drew the interiors. The joinery and materials are reminiscent of the atmosphere aboard Lagoon’s two big cats, the Sixty 5 and Seventy 7. This illustrates the high-end positioning of the 55, which for the time being tops the manufacturer’s ‘classic’ range.

Loft apartment-style living in the spacious main saloon by Nauta. Photo: Lagoon / Nicolas Claris

While the hulls are available with four, five and even six-cabin versions, the layout in the nacelle remains identical. The L-shaped galley on the starboard side is extended by a nice bar unit.

The large U-shaped bench seat simply invites you to settle in comfortably, still with an unrestricted view of the sea. The telescopic table also adapts to suit the use.

There is plenty of stowage space, from floor hatches to bookshelves. In the four-cabin version we tested, the owner’s cabin, aft on the starboard side, enjoys a privileged amount of space, occupying two-thirds of the hull. That said, the guests in the three other cabins have nothing to complain about, each with an en-suite.

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Some 20 examples of the original 1987 Lagoon 55 were built but, even ahead of the official launch, its namesake from 2021 has already had more orders – confirmation enough that Lagoon excels in understanding the expectations of today’s sailors. The aesthetics may no longer have much to do with that of a monohull, and the displacement inherent with such volumes doesn’t lend itself to pleasure at the helm, but you have to be impressed by the variety of different spaces available inside and out this catamaran, as well as the level of finish. Ultimately, the design team has succeeded in integrating several big innovations, especially on the exterior. In this sense, the Lagoon 55, 2021 version, is a worthy heir to the original. It sets new standards for ‘Crossing the oceans in comfort and serenity’ as was the ambition stated in the sales brochure... from 1987.

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The Lagoon 55: Built for the Long Haul

• By Mark Pillsbury
• September 6, 2022

In February, French boat builder Lagoon brought Hull No. 2 of its 55-foot luxury catamaran to the Miami International Boat Show. I can easily see this long-legged bluewater cruiser finding a niche among its siblings that range in length from 40 to 77 feet.

The 55, designed by VPLP, has an interior by Nauta and exterior styling by Patrick le Quément. Given its size and systems, the 55 will likely be a boat that many private ­owners will staff with a captain and mate, though it’s well-laid-out for a shorthanded crew, and certainly would be suitable for an owner-skipper who is up for the job of maintenance. 

And in charter , where ­Lagoons have long been popular? Well, let’s count the ways the 55 could be enjoyed.

First, there’s the flybridge, where the helm is located. Steps to either side ensure a good flow of traffic. The wheel is offset to starboard. Just forward of it, close at hand, three electric winches handle all the sail-control lines except for the traveler; that’s adjusted using an electric continuous-line winch whose push-button controls are mounted ­nearby. Abaft the helm, there’s a sink and fridge alongside a U-shaped seating area that surrounds a low cocktail ­table—a lovely place to sit.

Below, in the cockpit, are two more tables to starboard with tops that unfold to seat a crowd. There are also multiple cushioned lounges, all facing aft to take in the view astern. When raised, the swim platform/tender storage area provides a balcony over the water. Lowered, it’s a place to sit and hang feet in the water.

Directly forward of the cabin house, there’s another U-shaped seating area, and the center window in the saloon opens so refreshments can be passed out to anyone sitting there. The 55 has a self-tacking jib, with a sheet that’s led to a track on the coachroof just ahead of the mast, keeping lines out of the way on the foredeck. There is also a sprit with an electric furler for a code zero. During the show, the boat was rigged with a cloth sunshade over the forward ­seating area, held aloft by a pair of ­removable carbon-fiber poles. 

The boat in Miami carried a price tag of $2.2 million. That included options such as teak soles on the flybridge, in the cockpit and on the transoms; air conditioning; extra refrigeration; a washer and dryer ­amidships in the port hull; a pair of upgraded 115 hp Nanni engines with saildrives (80 hp diesels are standard); and a suite of B&G electronics.

Lagoon offers a number of interior layouts. This boat had four staterooms. The ­owner’s en suite stateroom was aft in the starboard hull, with a smaller guest stateroom forward. On the port side, two additional guest staterooms sat fore and aft, with a crew cabin (with its own head and shower) in the forepeak. The interior volume in the hulls ­allowed all the guest berths to be laid out athwartships. 

Five- and six-stateroom ­layouts are also available, and an owner can choose to have the galley up or down. All told, the 55 could have berths for 16 people.

Throughout the interior, ports and hatches abound, ­letting in lots of light and providing views of the world ­outside. In my notes, I jotted down “elegant” to describe the boat’s look and feel. 

Under power at a cruising rpm of 2,000, we saw readings of about 9 knots on the GPS. The steering seemed a bit sluggish both motoring and under sail, but the boat had arrived just prior to the show, and I’d suspected that it just needed an adjustment. 

The breeze barely broke 10 knots on our sea trial, and we weren’t able to fly the code-­zero sail due to missing gear, but with the self-tacker set, we moved along closehauled at about 6 knots, and gained ­another knot and a half by bearing off to a beam reach.

It was a comfortable ride. Sailing along, it didn’t take me long to find my sweet spot on the 55: the seat ­incorporated ­into the far forward ­lifeline stanchion, where I hung one arm over the wire and sat watching the bows slice through the waves. Believe me when I say that I could have stayed there all day.

Mark Pillsbury is a CW ­editor-at-large.

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Lagoon 46 Review, Spacious Bluewater Catamaran

31st mar 2024 by samantha wilson.

Lagoon quite modestly describes the 46 as a “generous catamaran,” but that’s a complete understatement when you look at the expansive interior and deck space to be found on this 46-footer. Launched in 2019 and still in production in 2024, the 46 replaced the Lagoon 450, one of the brand’s best-selling models for almost a decade, with almost 800 built. And the 46 has stepped confidently into its sister’s shoes, both in the private and charter market.

The Lagoon 46 was designed by Van Peteghem/Lauriot-Prevost with the exterior by Patrick le Quément and interior by Nauta Design, and the result is an impressive balance of bluewater cruising comfort and long-term livability. With three, four or even six cabins, an improved galley design, expansive flybridge, and yes “generous” living space, the 46 promises all the room and storage you could need for up to 12 people on board, as well as single-handed sailing capabilities. 

Crossing oceans and making other significant bluewater voyages or enjoying vacations with friends and family are the main reasons people sail the Lagoon 46. While it can cruise at respectable speeds under sail, its weight means it won’t be winning too many races, and in very light winds it needs to be motored. But it’s a worthy trade off for the luxurious and “generous” space, furnishings, and appliances it offers. 

The Lagoon 46 is a spacious, comfortable, and reliable bluewater cruiser. Lagoon Catamarans photo. 

Lagoon 46 Key Features 

One of the stand-out features of the 48 is the cockpit, which offers panoramic views of the horizon, a wet bar, and comfortable dining and living space for 12 people. The flybridge, too, is a key selling point, with the helm station and transformable sundecks creating both a functional and relaxing space. 

Head inside and the Lagoon 46 outdoes itself on clever use of space. The saloon, galley, and chart table have wraparound sea views and a fresh décor to maximize light. Down below the guest cabins are light and airy, certainly spacious (all queen-sized beds), yet also functional and practical. The owner’s cabin is positively palatial for a boat of this size. 

Clever use of deck space has provided practical and relaxing zones. Lagoon Catamarans photo. 

Lagoon 46 Performance

Lagoon’s focus is on reliability, safety, comfort, and luxury rather than all-out speed, but that doesn’t mean it can’t get a move on. There is a 1,300 square foot sail plan—with a smaller mainsail and larger jib—combined with the mast which has been stepped aft to allow this boat to be sailed confidently single-handedly. Electric winches to port and starboard make it easier to trim the headsails. Reviewers report with a moderate breeze, the 46 can hit 9-10 knots on a reach and a knot or two faster as the wind increases and you set a Code 0 headsail.

Upwind in a good breeze, this model will still move along well, but it won’t sail as close to the wind as catamarans with daggerboards and you may find yourself using its twin Yanmar diesel engines (45 or 57hp) to motorsail at a closer wind angle. Alone, the engines offer up to 9 knots at full throttle, with a cruising speed around 7 knots.

The flybridge offers transformable sundecks as well as the helm. Lagoon Catamarans photo. 

Lagoon 46 Why Buy It

• Impressive use of space, both on deck and down below
• It can comfortably accommodate 6 to 12 guests in up to 4 cabins
• Enormous owner’s cabin with spacious en-suite head
• Can be sailed single- or short-handedly
• Panoramic sea views from the airy saloon and galley
• It’s a comfortable, safe, reliable, and luxurious bluewater cruiser
• Buying Used? The Lagoon 46 has two different cabin layout options, aimed either at the owner or charter market, so be sure to search around for the right set-up for you. For other tips when buying used, read our Boat Inspection Checklist . 

The saloon, galley, and nav station on the Lagoon 46 offer panoramic views and plenty of living space. Lagoon Catamarans photo. 

Lagoon 46 Technical Specifications

• Length: 45'11''
• Beam: 26’10”
• Draft: 4’5”
• Sail Area: 1,323 sq ft
• Fuel capacity: 274 gallons
• Displacement: 34,773  lbs
• Material: Fiberglass

The owner’s suite on the Lagoon 46 is positively palatial in size. Lagoon Catamarans photo. 

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Written By: Samantha Wilson

Samantha Wilson has spent her entire life on and around boats, from tiny sailing dinghies all the way up to superyachts. She writes for many boating and yachting publications, top charter agencies, and some of the largest travel businesses in the industry, combining her knowledge and passion of boating, travel and writing to create topical, useful and engaging content.

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The Lagoon 40 is the entry level catamaran for the famous French catamaran manufacturer now that they have stopped producing the 39, the 400 S2 and the iconic 380. The 40 is almost 800kg lighter than the 39- that will give you an idea of how Lagoon had adjusted the dial on this boat. The mast is further back than the 400 in the new Fourth Gen style and it is wider.

A Big Seller Will the 40 hit the kinds of sales that the 380 achieved? You wouldn’t bet against it, this looks like it will become one of the best selling Lagoon catamarans of all time. It will have to catch the 42 though. These days, of course, they have a lot of competition from the likes of Fountaine Pajot , Leopard and even sister company Excess.

Photos credit: Nicolas Claris .

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– The 40 is 800Kg lighter than the 39. – The mast has been moved further back compared to the 400 (easier sail handling). – Visibility is pretty good to all 4 corners, the port bow being the hardest to see. – Down below there’s plenty of space. She’s the best in class here. – Put the square top mainsail down as one one of your priority options. – She sails OK upwind for a fixed keel cruising cat, don’t pinch her too high. – Upgrade to the 45HP Yanmars if you can.

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Overall Design

Designed by long term Lagoon partners VPLP, the 40 has taken many of the design cues from her older and larger fourth generation sisters (especially the successful 42): a more angular, muscly look, bigger windows and portholes for more light.  The saloon windows are still vertical, that trademark Lagoon look, but they have been stretched which gives the boat a streamlined look.

4th Gen Styling with the Mast Further Aft With a vacuum-infusion construction and balsa coring in the deck and the hull above the waterline, the weight has been kept off as much as possible. The mast is well aft in the new 4th Gen style, with an easy to handle main and bigger foresail- all good stuff for sailing her short handed.

• The accommodation is the roomiest in her class, although Fountaine Pajot probably matches her with the Isla 40.
• She feels safe to clamber about – there are plenty of handrails to grab onto and most of the hatches are recessed on deck
• The Lagoon 40 is well set up for short-handed or even single handed sailing with that mast aft, big headsail configuration.
• She is surprisingly good upwind and great fun off the wind (especially with the larger headsail up in 18 knots of wind).
• Lagoon is a popular brand. If their previous models are anything to go by, there should be demand for your boat when it is time to sell.
• The Square Top main is an option. This should be first on your list in my opinion or you’ll risk feeling underpowered under sail, especially in lighter winds.
• Because the bimini stops short of the aft bench and that bulkhead helm, the aft cockpit will get wet quickly in a downpour.
• The saloon / aft cockpit area doesn’t feel as open as many of her competitors, especially with that mast support stepped so far back. It feels a bit like you have to weave your way into the saloon compared to more open designs like some of the Nautitech catamarans we have taken a look at.
• There is no ventilation in the roof in the saloon – this could get hot and stuffy quickly with the burners on.
• The folding ladder that you use to get onto the coachroof from the foredeck could be sturdier
• At 300L, the fresh water storage is on the low size compared to the competition.

2 steps take you up from the sugar-scoops to the aft cockpit where they have added an aft beam seat and a dining table with an L-Shaped wrap around sofa. The bulkhead helm peeps up over the bimini on the starboard side in traditional Lagoon Sport Top fashion, and there´s a day lounger tucked in behind it on the starboard side.

You´ll need to step up to see the bows though which makes it more difficult to reach the throttles. Coming in stern first when docking is the way to go, just duck under the bimini for the best visibility and at 38 and a half foot, she is very manoeuvrable with those twin engines (29HP or 40HP on the upgrade).

Getting up onto the bimini and to the mast is pretty easy- either jump up from the helm, or head up via the ladder from the foredeck. Most of the deck hatches are recessed on the deck (apart from the forepeaks).

Decent Visibility, Well Connected Overall, the helm position is a great compromise. You are connected to the cockpit, visibility is OK, and the mast is still low enough to access quickly and easily if you need to sort problems out with any lines.

The downside with these single bulk head helms is that it’s not so easy to trim your sails on both tacks. The genoa is problematic on the port tack. Also, if it´s raining hard, your aft cockpit is going to get wet quickly unless you get your helm covers up quickly, there is not as much protection as you get on cats with a full bimini.

The other thing with the 40, is that the bimini does not extend back to the aft of the boat. That gives you a view of the mainsail from the aft bench but again, that means there is less protection from the sun and rain at the back of the boat.

Well, this is where Lagoon excels, isn’t it? With fatter hulls than much of the competition, there is more room down here for accommodation and the 40 feels like a much bigger boat than 38 and a half feet.

The saloon and galley layout is pretty standard- why change a winning formula? There’s an aft facing galley on the port side (with only a single sink though). Forward is an ample wrap around sofa, the dining table and a nav desk tucked into the forward port corner.

To starboard aft is a refrigerator/freezer and plenty of storage. Ventilation comes from 2 forward hatches. They could do with some hatches in the roof in my opinion, I say that about most of the Lagoons. It would be cooler and you could keep an eye on the mainsail.

Three or Four Cabins Your options are three to four cabins and two to four heads. In the maestro version, the whole port hull is given over to the master suite, and it feels big. Forward is the head with a large shower , and aft is an island berth. Amidships, there’s an office space with a desk and sofa, and a sliding door to keep any pesky guests out. With those bigger port windows, it’s nice and light down here.

In the other hull to starboard, there are two guest cabins that share a head with a shower (or you can go for 2 smaller heads). If you really want to pack ’em in, you can configure the boat with 4 berths and 4 heads, but I’d go 4 berths and 2 or 3 heads or 3 berths and 2 or 3 heads.

It´s worth going for the square-top mainsail option on the 40, as this will catch the clean air up high and will move the Lagoon nicely in a breeze. Like most of the range, she won´t get going quickly in light airs, but once the wind fills in, this catamaran will move nicely, especially on a beam reach with the Code 0 up (go for the bowsprit option if you can). In a moderate to fresh force 4/5 you should see double digit speeds off the wind and respectable speeds (8 knots) pointing higher up to 50 degrees apparent.

Acceptable Upwind Performance Sailing upwind, you will probably be doing 110 degree tacks. Pinch her any further and the speed drops off and you will start to slip sideways, but that is true of many cruising cats. If you need to get up wind fast, fire up the leeward engine to give you a boost.

The standard sail area is 875ft with a self-tacking jib with sheets that lead back to a track on the coach roof just forward of the mast. This frees up the foredeck for a sunlounger cushion just aft of the nets.

She’s an easy boat to handle short-handed. All lines come back to the helm (apart from the furling lines for the headsails and the gennaker sheets). Make sure you go for the folding props- that should give you an extra knot.

The standard engine set up is twin 29HP Yanmars with saildrives, but I would recommend the upgrade to 2x 45HP to help you power through the chop. There is minimal weight penalty. The 40 will motor along happily at over 7 knots at 2,300 rpm and you should see 6 knots with just one engine running if you want to conserve diesel. The engine rooms are nice and roomy for maintenance – we have no complaints on that front.

The Lagoon 40 has every chance of match the 380’s sales number as long as they don’t launch another entry level boat any time soon.

The Market Leader There is stiff competition in this sector of the market, with Fountaine Pajot launching the Isla 40 (bit nippier, feels less robust), the Nautitech 40 Open (more performance, less space down below) and the Bali 4.1 (higher boom, more living space), but I would guess that the Lagoon is the top seller.

The charter companies have lapped this boat up and they remain very popular with owner operators too. It should definitely be on your short list.

How does the Lagoon 40 compare to the 400S2 and the 380? In terms of size, the 40 sits in between these 2 boats. With the mast stepped back, in general the Sail Area to Displacement ratios are lower for the newer Lagoons. In light winds, the game is all about getting the Code 0 up. The 410 is substantially longer and packs more sail power for its weight than the others.

How much does a new Lagoon 40 cost? The price is heavily dependent on the options you go for, but €500-550k gets you in the ball park for a new boat (ex taxes).

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Lagoon est le leader mondial de la construction de catamaran de croisière à voile. Lagoon a fabriqué plus de 6 000 catamarans depuis 1984 et n’a cessé de développer son offre avec une gamme de bateaux de 40 à 78 pieds. La volonté de Lagoon est d’offrir des catamarans confortables et autonomes, issus d’une production durable, équipés des technologies de pointe, le tout pour la satisfaction des marins d’aujourd’hui.

La générosité et le plaisir sont notre raison d’être. Notre passion pour les grands espaces et le confort à bord est ancrée dans nos gènes.

Conçus pour offrir un style de vie unique sur l’eau, nos catamarans Lagoon sont l’aboutissement d’un rêve de voyages et d’une envie de liberté.

Lagoon s’engage pour une navigation plaisir grâce à un réglage des voiles simple et sûr. Nous mettons en œuvre notre savoir-faire au service de la convivialité.

En 1987, Lagoon invente une nouvelle vision du confort en mer, ainsi naît le Lagoon 55. Cette année Lagoon revisite ce modèle iconique. Avec plus de 30 ans d’écart, ces deux modèles sont les parfaits reflets de leur époque.

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Four Roads to Moscow: Map and OB Evaluation

Four Roads to Moscow

Four Roads to Moscow , included in the Against the Odds Annual Edition for 2010, is comprised of four game modules in one package. Each is designed by a veteran game designer and each deals with the German advance on Moscow during World War II. In this article, veteran game designer Lou Coatney takes a look at the maps and orders of battle for each of the four games...

Map and OB Evaluations

At great personal financial cost (for minimum-pension me), I got a copy of Four Roads to Moscow . The competing/comparative designs concept and packaging are fascinating, and I thank Andy Loakes for getting it to me, even with Paul Rohrbaugh's neat link between John Prados's pre-invasion game and the others.

All the components are *beautifully* rendered graphically. However, I have some concerns about the maps and orders of battle (as usual) so far, that Andy Nunez might want to consider for the future.

Roger Nord's game Strike the Bear has an ingeniously innovative octagonal grid with squares in the gaps on its map, by Randy Lein , but the rivers and lakes (which do have terrain effects) squirt all over the mapboard oblivious to the grid (bringing back nightmares of trying to figure where rivers were in the ancient classic "Fall of Dunkirk").

Ted Raicer's game Hitler Turns East - mapmaker Randy Lein again - has the Dvina river not touching the Gulf of Riga at all, at Riga, but flowing *east* from east of there! (Some here may remember me questioning Ted not having a Baranovichi-to-Bobruisk line in his point-to-point "Barbarossa to Berlin", but this is pretty strange. Didn't Ted get a chance to proof the map? Was it a publication deadline casualty? Trying to get all 4 games finished and packaged together at all was a remarkable feat for Against the Odds .

And Dvinsk seems too far north. Before I try Ted's game, I'm going to make some corrections for my copy, and I'd be willing to share those with Andy, if he wants me to. (I keep saying that for a free copy of a corps level or above Russian Front game, I would be happy to look over the mapsheet, to see if there are any corrections I could suggest, but...)

Mike Rinella's game Slaughterhouse is a point-to-point movement game. Terrain is only a general consideration - points in rough terrain or the Pripet marshes have an effect, but those are easy to see since the route selections or grades themselves can resolve such considerations. However, it lacks many obvious connections. I assume Mike's reason for the early connections from the border not being laterally linked (like Riga and Dvinsk aren't) is because each army (group) was supposed to have its own exclusive route of advance, but lateral shifts of units *were* made by both sides, and players should be able to make them. Another (of many possible) example(s) is the lack of a connection between Vichniy Volochek and Novgorod, which would complete the historically important most direct route between Moscow and Leningrad. Novgorod, Demyansk, and Velikiye Luki seem too far north. Even with point to point, it is important to keep relative locations accurate. And I'm not talking about the original East Front Solitaire's points running so far afield of their placenames. ☺

Of course, John Prados' typically creative Codeword: Barbarossa about the strategic runup to Barbarossa is the real prize. It is classic old Avalon Hill "Origins of World War 2" with lots of historical event cards and real strategic creation and shifting of military forces. Threats vs. bluffs or, as happened historically, threats which disastrously turned out to be bluffs. シ "Origins of Barbarossa" could be another title for it. ☺

Brandon Pennington did this area map too, and it looks very appropriately functional, although I do wonder if that long north-south area east of Lake Chud/Peipus should be there. (Maybe it was spawned from playtesting?) And I really like seeing Transylvania in BLACK. Maybe that could use a barely perceptible figure in its shadows. ☺

Orders of Battle

As to a preliminary impression of the games' orders of battle, I should describe what my research leads me to think are the stronger vs. weaker 22-Jun-41 units. For the German field/infantry armies, 4th and 18th were strong. 6th started weak but grew strong. For the panzer groups, Guderian's 2nd PzGp started the strongest both in equipment and (his) initiative, followed by 3rd, 1st, and 4th in that order. At the panzer korps level, Guderian's go-to 24th, Hoepner/3rd's 39th, and Hoth/4th's 41st were strong, although in the latter case, von Manstein's 56th made up for material weakness with his bridge-grabbing dash.

As to the Russians, strong frontier "combined arms" armies were 8th, 11th, 10th, and 23rd, followed closely by 5th, 6th, 9th (depending on whether or not the 18th is subtracted from it), and 12th. For the Battle of Moscow, Rokossovsky would be in command of 16th which was back in the Reserve echelon on 22-Jun-41, so it could be made strong for the later game too. As to the slow 1941 mech corps, the strongest were 1st (Len), 3rd (Balt), 4th(! Kiev), 6th (West), 7th(! back in Reserve near Vyazma), 8th (Kiev), and 15th (Kiev), followed by 5th (Reserve), 10th (Len), 11th (West), 12th (Balt), and 14th (West), with the others up through the 25th variously weak. (Glantz Initial Period of War and Krupchenko Sovetski Tankoviye Voiska. By the way, I got a free copy of GDW's "Fire in the East", thanks to my help with the Russian mexkors' strengths and locations... although why 12th was still made stronger than 3rd ...?)

Strike the Bear is at army level with corps breakdowns and independent Russian mechanized corps. For the Germans, 4th, 9th, 16th, and 18th armies are the strongest, but there is no 2nd Army at all. The panzer groups vary slightly in strength, historically. For the Russians, 10th, 23rd, and 26th(?) are strong armies. 3rd is the only strongest mexkor and is shown as pure armor rather than mechanized like the others.

Ted's Hitler Turns East has all-equal/uniform strengths for German field armies and panzer korps, although those may be at varying 22-Jun-41 step-reduction strengths? For the Russians, army strengths are consistent with history, as I have described. However, Ted has grouped the mexkors into pairs as was done for GDW's old Series 120 "1941: Operation Barbarossa", and as in that case some of the groupings are not logical and also all of them have an un-reduceable strength of 2 (vs. the standard pzkps 4). But 7th MexKor alone is a whopping 4 all by itself, although still having the 4-x army/group unit level marking. (Its 1st Moscow Motorized Rifle Division was a showpiece unit, but ....) There is also the 1st Guards Cavalry *Army* - Budyonny's KonArmiya? ☺ - and a west-facing 1-factor "free radical" T-34 unit with the only icon besides air/StuKA units (which are all diving *from the east*, oddly) in the games.

Mike Rinella has all 8 field armies and all 4 panzer groups for the Germans. As well, there are *9* Security divisions (to deal with the 1 Russian Partisan unit, apparently,. ☺) For the Russians, Mike has 11 front - army group xxxxx - units, some geographically referenced armies, and 4 shock armies like Ted's (but not Roger's) game does.

John's Codeword Barbarossa "pregame" has 10 of the 11 German panzerkorps, but an Afrika Korps unit instead of the 40th. He appears to have the starting infantry and mountain korps. Unlike the other games, he has no Axis allies. Like all the other games, he has a German parachute korps. For the Russians, he has all 23 of the 22-Jun-41 armies - even 7th and 14th which were facing Finland north of Leningrad - no less than 24 mexkors, a parachute korps, and the 6th (Cossack) KavKor. There is a "reinforced" backside of the units, as well as fortification( marker)s which apparently can be built and then dismantled to be rebuilt in more strategically advantageous locations, unless caught by surprise under construction, presumably. Fascinating.

Such is my initial survey of Four Roads to Moscow's contents. As to whether I play them, I don't know.

At the army- front level, I think my free little German Eagle vs. Russian Bear wins. For a standard corps-army level hex-and-counter game, my free War Against Russia (WAR) wins, and for overall excitement of play, my free 9-hex-warsaw-to-moscow lotsa dice Darkest Crusade can't be beat.

... in all modesty. ☺

Lou Coatney - Game Designer - Links

www.CoatneyHistory.com LCoat.tripod.com (Free/educational mil/nav history boardgames, cardstock model ship plans, etc.)

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The Punisher visits Roanapur

• Thread starter Berserker Toad
• Start date Sep 1, 2014

Berserker Toad

• Sep 1, 2014

Pretty simple - Frank Castle, gun-toting badass of MU, visits Black Lagoon's infamous wretched hive of scum and villainy, aiming to kill heads of all criminal organisations that are in power - Rip-Off Church, Hotel Moscow, Triads, Mafia - and as many criminals as necessary i nthe process. Agaisnt him are pretty much everyone from Black Lagoon anime/manga who lives there and are still alive at this point (so no Roberta or Hansel & Gretel), he gets all the gear he ever used in comcis EXCEPT any superhero gear he ever stolen (so no copy of Cap's shield, no Ant-Man Helmet, no semi-Venom outfit) and has a month of preptime. He can have aid of any non-superpowered allies as long as they were his supporting cast, so he can get help from, say Microchip or Rachel Cole-Avez.  

Cancelled for A

He gets killed.  

Berserker Toad said: Pretty simple - Frank Castle, gun-toting badass of MCU, visits Black Lagoon's infamous wretched hive of scum and villainy, aiming to kill heads of all criminal organisations that are in power - Rip-Off Church, Hotel Moscow, Triads, Mafia - and as many criminals as necessary i nthe process. Agaisnt him are pretty much everyone from Black Lagoon anime/manga who lives there and are still alive at this point (so no Roberta or Hansel & Gretel), he gets all the gear he ever used in comcis EXCEPT any superhero gear he ever stolen (so no copy of Cap's shield, no Ant-Man Helmet, no semi-Venom outfit) and has a month of preptime. He can have aid of any non-superpowered allies as long as they were his supporting cast, so he can get help from, say Microchip or Rachel Cole-Avez. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Cancelled for A said: He gets killed. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

ttestagr said: He kills every criminal in the city This is totally a vacation from his actual day job. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Mook91 said: And this is why I don't read comic books. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

sciman said: Haven't a good number of those guys handed Frank his head in various fights? I know for a fact that he lost against Molly, who is a worse fighter than most of the people here. Cap took him out too, but Frank wasn't fighting back for that one. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

MarissaLH2112

Last kitten of krypton.

CuriousStranger

Write anything.

The Punisher choked out the Ghost Rider so hard it fled Johnny Blaze. He's got this.  

Cyborg Commando

I remember an issue of Secret Defenders were Punisher was fighting Ulik the Troll(a Thor villain) by himself and holding his own(ie, avoiding getting outright killed and actually causing the big guy some pain and surprise).  

Furons Empire!

The Black Lagoon verse weakens plot shields significantly as time goes on, Punisher will probably be just another Roberta. He won't do as good and he will die.  

ttestagr said: Daredevil mind you, would give Roberta a run for her money or beat the shit out of her and everyone else in the city at the same time. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Apocalypse How

Furons Empire! said: The Black Lagoon verse weakens plot shields significantly as time goes on, Punisher will probably be just another Roberta. He won't do as good and he will die. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

feanor512 said: LOL. No. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Sublime Truth

Sublime Truth said: Not an argument. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Frog Conversion Therapist

All the gear he ever used, minus captured superhero gear, right? I should mention that at one point, Frank dropped a nuclear bomb on an island full of mercenaries.  

Darklyre said: All the gear he ever used, minus captured superhero gear, right? I should mention that at one point, Frank dropped a nuclear bomb on an island full of mercenaries. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Furons Empire! said: Well there's always the chance some Mafia head's happen to be on vacation Also how's he going to sneak a nuke in with out the Russians or Triads detecting it? Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Darklyre said: He doesn't have to. He dropped the other nuke out of a plane, after all. It's not like he has to step foot in the city. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Furons Empire! said: You're forgetting he's in the Black Lagoon verse not MARVEL, he isn't going to willy nilly buy a nuke transport a nuke with out anybody knowing. Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Darklyre said: He has all his gear, all of his non-superpowered support, and he has a month of prep-time. Sure sound to me like it's combined, not "Frank is now in Black Lagoon." Click to expand... Click to shrink...

• Sep 2, 2014

Furons Empire! said: Neither is posting non cannon sources (Ala Punisher kills the MARVEL verse) Click to expand... Click to shrink...

Sublime Truth said: I didn't make that post, so why bring it up to me? Click to expand... Click to shrink...

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